*A RTW Island Hopper Surcharges??
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*A RTW Island Hopper Surcharges??
I've been planning a RTW journey that is 14 segments and <24,000 miles:
DXB>SIN>MNL>ROR>GUM>SPN>GUM>PNI>MAJ>HNL>YVR>YYC>YY Z>DXB
I couldn't believe it when I received the final price and there were 2505 Euros added on to the base ticket price of 2561 Euros for Economy.
Anyone know why the surcharges would be so high? Is it because of United's Island hopper flights?
DXB>SIN>MNL>ROR>GUM>SPN>GUM>PNI>MAJ>HNL>YVR>YYC>YY Z>DXB
I couldn't believe it when I received the final price and there were 2505 Euros added on to the base ticket price of 2561 Euros for Economy.
Anyone know why the surcharges would be so high? Is it because of United's Island hopper flights?
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UA supplies a breakdown of all charges beyond base fare, whether those are surcharges or taxes. If you don't have it, call the channel through which you booked. If you need help with all of the codes, post back here once you have the $ breakdown.
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I've been planning a RTW journey that is 14 segments and <24,000 miles:
DXB>SIN>MNL>ROR>GUM>SPN>GUM>PNI>MAJ>HNL>YVR>YYC>YY Z>DXB
I couldn't believe it when I received the final price and there were 2505 Euros added on to the base ticket price of 2561 Euros for Economy.
Anyone know why the surcharges would be so high? Is it because of United's Island hopper flights?
DXB>SIN>MNL>ROR>GUM>SPN>GUM>PNI>MAJ>HNL>YVR>YYC>YY Z>DXB
I couldn't believe it when I received the final price and there were 2505 Euros added on to the base ticket price of 2561 Euros for Economy.
Anyone know why the surcharges would be so high? Is it because of United's Island hopper flights?
Noting there is no YYZ-DXB direct on *A showing in the tool, I selected routing via LHR & FRA as a worst case option (since the tool then adds UK APD).
By far most of the fees are 2187 EUR for "airline insurance surcharge". Interestingly there is no YQ or fuel surcharge listed (but a further 311 EUR for "carrier surcharge/fee"), which makes me think the label of the excessive fee is wrong.
Have you contacted *A to query the fee (include the reference for the dummy booking)?
I also notice there is also a 45 EUR service charge added. W-T-F?
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I plugged in your itinerary into the *A RTW tool, using arbitrary dates for flights.
Noting there is no YYZ-DXB direct on *A showing in the tool, I selected routing via LHR & FRA as a worst case option (since the tool then adds UK APD).
By far most of the fees are 2187 EUR for "airline insurance surcharge". Interestingly there is no YQ or fuel surcharge listed (but a further 311 EUR for "carrier surcharge/fee"), which makes me think the label of the excessive fee is wrong.
Have you contacted *A to query the fee (include the reference for the dummy booking)?
I also notice there is also a 45 EUR service charge added. W-T-F?
Noting there is no YYZ-DXB direct on *A showing in the tool, I selected routing via LHR & FRA as a worst case option (since the tool then adds UK APD).
By far most of the fees are 2187 EUR for "airline insurance surcharge". Interestingly there is no YQ or fuel surcharge listed (but a further 311 EUR for "carrier surcharge/fee"), which makes me think the label of the excessive fee is wrong.
Have you contacted *A to query the fee (include the reference for the dummy booking)?
I also notice there is also a 45 EUR service charge added. W-T-F?
I'm just in planning stages now but it looks like I'll have to contact Lufthansa's RTW team to figure this one out...
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Agree it does seem to be UA.
Just changing GUM-PNI-MAJ-HNL to GUM-HNL reduces the carrier surcharge fee to 161 EUR and the airline insurance surcharge to 1027 EUR (ie over 1100 EUR saving).
Just changing GUM-PNI-MAJ-HNL to GUM-HNL reduces the carrier surcharge fee to 161 EUR and the airline insurance surcharge to 1027 EUR (ie over 1100 EUR saving).
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Still not sure why the Island Hopper triggers such high Airline Insurance Surcharges!
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I just looked on the United website and I can book the Island hopper from Koror to Honolulu with stops in Guam, Pohnpei, and Majuro for $1,376 including taxes and fees. There's something strange being triggered in the RTW system.
Sat., Dec. 13, 2014 | Koror, Palau (ROR) to Guam (GUM)
Depart:
3:05 a.m.
Sat., Dec. 13, 2014
Koror, Palau (ROR)
Arrive:
6:10 a.m.
Sat., Dec. 13, 2014
Guam (GUM)
Travel Time:
2 hr 5 mn
Distance:
814 miles
Flight:UA192
Operated by UNITED AIRLINES FOR AIR MICRONESIA.
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Snack
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Mon., Dec. 15, 2014 | Guam (GUM) to Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia (PNI)
Depart:
8:20 a.m.
Mon., Dec. 15, 2014
Guam (GUM)
Arrive:
1:03 p.m.
Mon., Dec. 15, 2014
Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia (PNI)
Flight Time:
3 hr 43 mn
Travel Time:
3 hr 43 mn
Distance:
1,017 miles
Flight:UA155
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Breakfast
1 Stop. Time on the ground in Truk, Federated States of Micronesia (TKK) is 37 minutes.
Wed., Dec. 17, 2014 | Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia (PNI) to Majuro, Marshall Islands (MAJ)
Depart:
2:47 p.m.
Wed., Dec. 17, 2014
Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia (PNI)
Arrive:
7:13 p.m.
Wed., Dec. 17, 2014
Majuro, Marshall Islands (MAJ)
Flight Time:
3 hr 26 mn
Travel Time:
3 hr 26 mn
Distance:
895 miles
Flight:UA155
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Lunch
No Special Meal Offered.
1 Stop. Time on the ground in Kwajalein, Marshall Islands (KWA) is 38 minutes.
Fri., Dec. 19, 2014 | Majuro, Marshall Islands (MAJ) to Honolulu, HI (HNL)
Depart:
8:05 p.m.
Fri., Dec. 19, 2014
Majuro, Marshall Islands (MAJ)
Arrive:
2:50 a.m.
Fri., Dec. 19, 2014
Honolulu, HI (HNL)
Travel Time:
4 hr 45 mn
Distance:
2,280 miles
Flight:UA155
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Dinner
Note: You are departing Koror, Palau (ROR) and arriving Honolulu, HI (HNL).
Sat., Dec. 13, 2014 | Koror, Palau (ROR) to Guam (GUM)
Depart:
3:05 a.m.
Sat., Dec. 13, 2014
Koror, Palau (ROR)
Arrive:
6:10 a.m.
Sat., Dec. 13, 2014
Guam (GUM)
Travel Time:
2 hr 5 mn
Distance:
814 miles
Flight:UA192
Operated by UNITED AIRLINES FOR AIR MICRONESIA.
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Snack
Premier Instant Upgrade Fare Premier Instant Upgrade Fare
Mon., Dec. 15, 2014 | Guam (GUM) to Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia (PNI)
Depart:
8:20 a.m.
Mon., Dec. 15, 2014
Guam (GUM)
Arrive:
1:03 p.m.
Mon., Dec. 15, 2014
Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia (PNI)
Flight Time:
3 hr 43 mn
Travel Time:
3 hr 43 mn
Distance:
1,017 miles
Flight:UA155
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Breakfast
1 Stop. Time on the ground in Truk, Federated States of Micronesia (TKK) is 37 minutes.
Wed., Dec. 17, 2014 | Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia (PNI) to Majuro, Marshall Islands (MAJ)
Depart:
2:47 p.m.
Wed., Dec. 17, 2014
Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia (PNI)
Arrive:
7:13 p.m.
Wed., Dec. 17, 2014
Majuro, Marshall Islands (MAJ)
Flight Time:
3 hr 26 mn
Travel Time:
3 hr 26 mn
Distance:
895 miles
Flight:UA155
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Lunch
No Special Meal Offered.
1 Stop. Time on the ground in Kwajalein, Marshall Islands (KWA) is 38 minutes.
Fri., Dec. 19, 2014 | Majuro, Marshall Islands (MAJ) to Honolulu, HI (HNL)
Depart:
8:05 p.m.
Fri., Dec. 19, 2014
Majuro, Marshall Islands (MAJ)
Arrive:
2:50 a.m.
Fri., Dec. 19, 2014
Honolulu, HI (HNL)
Travel Time:
4 hr 45 mn
Distance:
2,280 miles
Flight:UA155
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Dinner
Note: You are departing Koror, Palau (ROR) and arriving Honolulu, HI (HNL).
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