Can I have two tickets?
Jul 26, 2014, 1:48 pm
#1
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Can I have two tickets?
I have a situation I'm not sure how to address.
I need to go to one of two places, the one vs the other will not be known until about an hour before (has to do with whichever contract is signed first).
Can I book a ticket to two different cities, and cancel the one up until the no-show rule?
What would happen in that case? Will I only be able to print one of the BPs?
I don't want to not have the other ticket in case of a sold out situation.
Yes, it's a dick-move to hold seats on both, but this is a unique case I'm not sure quite how else to handle.
I need to go to one of two places, the one vs the other will not be known until about an hour before (has to do with whichever contract is signed first).
Can I book a ticket to two different cities, and cancel the one up until the no-show rule?
What would happen in that case? Will I only be able to print one of the BPs?
I don't want to not have the other ticket in case of a sold out situation.
Yes, it's a dick-move to hold seats on both, but this is a unique case I'm not sure quite how else to handle.
Jul 26, 2014, 2:05 pm
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Just remember the cancellation deadline online is one hour from scheduled departure time. You can go to the gate/call in and have them manually delete the reservation though. Just be careful, the agents at the airport will see your other flight(s) booked that day. Make sure they cancel the correct one.
Jul 26, 2014, 2:08 pm
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Really yes and no. It is done by many, but it a violation of the Southwest Airlines Contract of Carriage.
"(v) Multiple Reservations. Southwest prohibits multiple reservations for the same passenger departing from the same city on the same date. Furthermore, without notice to the passenger or purchaser, Southwest may cancel such reservations or any other reservations that it believes, in its sole discretion, were made without intent to travel."
"(v) Multiple Reservations. Southwest prohibits multiple reservations for the same passenger departing from the same city on the same date. Furthermore, without notice to the passenger or purchaser, Southwest may cancel such reservations or any other reservations that it believes, in its sole discretion, were made without intent to travel."
Jul 26, 2014, 3:17 pm
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Really yes and no. It is done by many, but it a violation of the Southwest Airlines Contract of Carriage.
"(v) Multiple Reservations. Southwest prohibits multiple reservations for the same passenger departing from the same city on the same date. Furthermore, without notice to the passenger or purchaser, Southwest may cancel such reservations or any other reservations that it believes, in its sole discretion, were made without intent to travel."
"(v) Multiple Reservations. Southwest prohibits multiple reservations for the same passenger departing from the same city on the same date. Furthermore, without notice to the passenger or purchaser, Southwest may cancel such reservations or any other reservations that it believes, in its sole discretion, were made without intent to travel."
I will say that because of this rule change, I have stopped booking 2 returns on the same day.
Jul 26, 2014, 4:12 pm
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Just remember the cancellation deadline online is one hour from scheduled departure time. You can go to the gate/call in and have them manually delete the reservation though. Just be careful, the agents at the airport will see your other flight(s) booked that day. Make sure they cancel the correct one.
This is a fairly recent ( in the last 6 months, I think) change to the CoC. No one has reported here that flights have been cancelled because of this rule, but..... Are they going to start enforcing this at some point???
I will say that because of this rule change, I have stopped booking 2 returns on the same day.
I will say that because of this rule change, I have stopped booking 2 returns on the same day.
Jul 26, 2014, 5:00 pm
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I don't understand how 'a few' can be auto-cancelled.
If a computer is going to take an action it needs an algorithm for those actions. How can you tell a computer, 'cancel just a few of these false reservations - maybe we will scare them'.
If a computer is going to take an action it needs an algorithm for those actions. How can you tell a computer, 'cancel just a few of these false reservations - maybe we will scare them'.
Jul 26, 2014, 5:17 pm
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The results of that batch process are tossed out into a queue that is/can be reviewed by a human and/or a real-time IT processes downstream.
Depending on the results of the multitude of what-if scenarios programmed into the batch process and the yes/no answers generated as a result of the process running, the downstream real-time process and/or human reviewer(s) may or may not whack your reservations.
Quite arbitrary and actually quite efficient when they wish it to be. Kinda neat actually.
And for those of us that are regular SWA IT-bashers (count me among them), you bet they're that smart. After all, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP1af7ilYpM
Jul 27, 2014, 12:44 am
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Same RR number same day from departure city=100% match.
Jul 27, 2014, 9:14 am
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I have an update.
I called the RR A+ Phone number and asked point blank: I need two tickets to two locations, and I won't know until approximately the time I will arrive at the airport which plane I need to board. The agent said it's no problem to book them both.
I did book them both - they're for tomorrow, and I have all sets of BPs printed next to me. One of them will get cancelled - I will do that as soon as I know which one I won't need.
Interesting that the CoC specifically forbids this, but then again the language is squishy "may cancel" and "will cancel" are two vastly different things.
Thanks. I'll post another update so we have more data points in case someone else runs into this later.
I called the RR A+ Phone number and asked point blank: I need two tickets to two locations, and I won't know until approximately the time I will arrive at the airport which plane I need to board. The agent said it's no problem to book them both.
I did book them both - they're for tomorrow, and I have all sets of BPs printed next to me. One of them will get cancelled - I will do that as soon as I know which one I won't need.
Interesting that the CoC specifically forbids this, but then again the language is squishy "may cancel" and "will cancel" are two vastly different things.
Thanks. I'll post another update so we have more data points in case someone else runs into this later.
Jul 27, 2014, 9:54 am
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I have an update.
I called the RR A+ Phone number and asked point blank: I need two tickets to two locations, and I won't know until approximately the time I will arrive at the airport which plane I need to board. The agent said it's no problem to book them both.
I did book them both - they're for tomorrow, and I have all sets of BPs printed next to me. One of them will get cancelled - I will do that as soon as I know which one I won't need.
Interesting that the CoC specifically forbids this, but then again the language is squishy "may cancel" and "will cancel" are two vastly different things.
Thanks. I'll post another update so we have more data points in case someone else runs into this later.
I called the RR A+ Phone number and asked point blank: I need two tickets to two locations, and I won't know until approximately the time I will arrive at the airport which plane I need to board. The agent said it's no problem to book them both.
I did book them both - they're for tomorrow, and I have all sets of BPs printed next to me. One of them will get cancelled - I will do that as soon as I know which one I won't need.
Interesting that the CoC specifically forbids this, but then again the language is squishy "may cancel" and "will cancel" are two vastly different things.
Thanks. I'll post another update so we have more data points in case someone else runs into this later.
Good luck with the contract-signing!
Jul 30, 2014, 1:11 pm
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Jul 30, 2014, 9:32 pm
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