britz

Hi all,

Looking for some advice on booking a SQ F award from US to MNL for two people (heading to our wedding!). We want to fly anytime the first week of April 2018 and willing to leave from SFO, LAX or JFK (we are west-coast based but JFK is the obvious preference as we would love to book the suites).

We have Chase UR points we will transfer to SQ - are we better off booking the award for two from a single krisflyer account or from separate accounts? I'm guessing we will have to waitlist and a single account might be better?

As for waitlisting - if we waitlist at 355 days out does these award tend to be confirmable far in advance? I read through recent posts in the waitlist forum and it seems things tend to become available close in but obviously we want a confirmed booking for our wedding! I don't want to waitlist and hope that it will clear 2 weeks ahead of time. Right now nothing is even showing available for WL at the end of the schedule - hopefully that's just due to the devaluation kicking in tomorrow.

If a month of two goes by and waitlist isn't confirmed but business class is available - can we book and switch to F if it becomes available close in? (all very hypothetical).

I'm a oneworld flyer- so not too familiar with sq policies, trends etc. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated! I am nervous about transferring so many points to SQ and the award falling through.

w4rd

Regarding switching to J later: Yes. I have done it. Waitlist F first then confirm J. You can cancel the J ticket and redeposit the miles for your F ticket if it becomes available later. I suggest waitlisting all the flights that would work for your schedule.

Assuming SQ does not fly any planes with F to MNL (I havn't checked) you will need to make a mixed class booking over the phone. Don't take any nonsense from the helpdesk about pricing it as two awards!

And good luck!

NetJets Germany

Not sure how it will be in 2018, but currently SQ still have one daily flight with an F cabin SIN-MNL-SIN, so there is no need for a mixed award.

w4rd

Cool, thanks.

terbangalways

I did same routing JFK-MNL in Suites. However... SIN-MNL F saver is always WL.
if you are not in a rush wait around, otherwise i did immediate confirmation on J. Pricing will be based on O saver from JFK-MNL still.

hwsv07

If it is booked under one award ticket but different class on the two legs, how would it be priced in terms of miles?

blahter

You would pay the F price.

britz

Do you mean you confirmed the whole trip JFK-MNL in J or just the SIN-MNL segment in J? I don't care what the SIN-MNL segment is in if the JFK-SIN segments are in suites.

britz

If I waitlist F and confirm J - do I need to have miles in my account for both J award (confirmed) and F award (waitlisted)? I was under the impression you needed the miles in the account in order to waitlist an award?

w4rd

You need miles to initially waitlist, but not to hold it.
So start by waitlisting your first choice(s) then confirm a backup J. If the waitlist clears phone up the helpdesk to cancel the confirmed booking, redeposit your miles and immediately confirm the waitlist as one transaction. You'll pay a small fee ($30 approx) and any difference in taxes.

I have only done this exSIN where it was straightforward. From other threads here I have read that you may take a forex risk if your origin is elsewhere, but the process seems to be the same.

britz

Awesome - thank you! I don't really care about the forex - I can't imagine it's much, especially with the increase in miles and decrease in fuel surcharge.

Since we'd obviously prefer the suites and are flexible over about a week- does it seem to risky to waitlist only the JFK-MNL flights? Or is availability scarce enough that we would be best off waitlisting SFO and LAX departures as well?

estnet

I have had horrible experience with agents claiming I needed to book 2 awards if there is a downgraded leg (over 4 hours on the phone and still didn't win) Also does this not involve backtracking? (I don't know but lax-bkk is not bookable b/c it has to book through sin) - maybe b/c mnl is ?further west it is okay?

britz

I'm assuming if it shows up on Singapore air website as able to waitlist first or book in business from either sfo, lax and JFK that means it's available. Technically there's no backtracking from JFK, just the long way to the Philippines from the west coast .

britz

I'm seeing good availability as the schedule opens for JFK-FRA-SIN (i.e.: bookable not waitlist). But theres is a ~5 day delay in JFK-FRA-SIN-MNL showing as waitlist. If I am seeing the first part bookable online if I call will an agent be able to waitlist the SIN-MNL segment even though I can't do it online? Or should I just take the Suites part and forget about the last segment?

I know I'm the only one that can really answer these questions - just wondering if there is something I am missing/ not aware of as this is my first time booking an award on SQ.

wanderer9020

If i were you, i forgot SIN-MNL in F since its just 3 hours flight and its not even suites, doesnt make any big difference than J. Call Krisflyer and booked mixed class, JFk-FRA-SIN in F, and SIN-MNL in J. At least you dont need to worry if the waitlist doesnt clears.