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mjcewl1284 , May 24, 2009 3:30 am
(Notice how I said most efficiently run, not best)
My vote would go to MSP. They give out pretty consistent orders, have decent placards telling people going through the check what to do, they don't audible rules and actually reply to you as if you were a human being if questions are asked.
(Please don't turn this into a Best and Worst post.)
My vote would go to MSP. They give out pretty consistent orders, have decent placards telling people going through the check what to do, they don't audible rules and actually reply to you as if you were a human being if questions are asked.
(Please don't turn this into a Best and Worst post.)
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TPA funnels people through extremely fast considering their volume, and they definitely one-up other airports with similar layouts (things like the monorail shuttles to airsides - Orlando can't get that right.)
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whirledtraveler , May 24, 2009 4:53 am
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Of all of the ways to rate the TSA, why efficiency?
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Speed is not the greatest concern of mine. Detection of prohibited items is my barometer.
In all the shameless PR the TSA does for itself, such as catching drug runners or people with an expired driver's license, isn't it funny how they don't beat their chest over a high rate of prohibited item detections?
Seems kind of odd how they don't beat their chest over that, doesn't it? Wonder why?
In all the shameless PR the TSA does for itself, such as catching drug runners or people with an expired driver's license, isn't it funny how they don't beat their chest over a high rate of prohibited item detections?
Seems kind of odd how they don't beat their chest over that, doesn't it? Wonder why?
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In all the shameless PR the TSA does for itself, such as catching drug runners or people with an expired driver's license, isn't it funny how they don't beat their chest over a high rate of prohibited item detections?
Seems kind of odd how they don't beat their chest over that, doesn't it? Wonder why?
You don't understand anything about security, Less Oxygen. The real test is not high rate of prohibited item detections. The real test is:Originally Posted by LessO2
Speed is not the greatest concern of mine. Detection of prohibited items is my barometer.In all the shameless PR the TSA does for itself, such as catching drug runners or people with an expired driver's license, isn't it funny how they don't beat their chest over a high rate of prohibited item detections?
Seems kind of odd how they don't beat their chest over that, doesn't it? Wonder why?
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TSOWilliamReed: "TSA catches terrorists all the time, they just don't go to jail. They are denied access to their flight and sent away from the airport after it has been determined they don't have anything dangerous on them."
That's right: The Terrorists Caught and Sent Home measureTSOWilliamReed: "TSA catches terrorists all the time, they just don't go to jail. They are denied access to their flight and sent away from the airport after it has been determined they don't have anything dangerous on them."
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TSOWilliamReed said...
Yes we really do catch terrorist test runs all the time. I am currently working on getting permision to post some articles for the blog to prove it but they are UFUO (SSI only government wide not TSA wide). Sometimes they aren't terrorists and they are just people who want to hurt others. Someone mentioned that the latest news on TSA.gov hasn't changed in the last couple months. Thats because that was the last incident that we are allowed to release to the public and thats not a TSA rule thats your entire governments rule. UFUO is a government wide SSI not TSA. We have had plenty more incidents since then but they were all considered UFUO. <snip> The reason the information is UFUO isn't because the information doesn't exsist, its because there is so much information that our government doesn't want people to freak out and not fly. May 6, 2009 2:24 PM
That's right--More Truth Than You Can Handle test.TSOWilliamReed said...
Yes we really do catch terrorist test runs all the time. I am currently working on getting permision to post some articles for the blog to prove it but they are UFUO (SSI only government wide not TSA wide). Sometimes they aren't terrorists and they are just people who want to hurt others. Someone mentioned that the latest news on TSA.gov hasn't changed in the last couple months. Thats because that was the last incident that we are allowed to release to the public and thats not a TSA rule thats your entire governments rule. UFUO is a government wide SSI not TSA. We have had plenty more incidents since then but they were all considered UFUO. <snip> The reason the information is UFUO isn't because the information doesn't exsist, its because there is so much information that our government doesn't want people to freak out and not fly. May 6, 2009 2:24 PM
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TSORon said: Catching them is not the job of the TSA, deterring them is.
It is the TSORon Hardened Terrorists Get to the Airport, See What TSA Has in Store for Them, Turn Tail and Run Back to the Drawing Board test.TSORon said: Catching them is not the job of the TSA, deterring them is.
If you just want to count how many terrorists, their weapons, bombs and incindiery devices have been caught by TSA per $million spent, you are just setting TSA up to fail.
If you count how many have been caught and released, how many incidents involving TSA-captured terrorists that have been hushed up by TSA to spare pax the kind of terror screeners have to live with day in and day out, or how many time TSA staff have SPOTted terrorists who have fled the airport in confusion before the multi-layered security laid down by TSA, well, my friend, then you would see the value of TSA.
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I actually respect the TSOs on this board that come in and try to help. They don't make the policies, they are volunteering their time answering questions and giving their point of view. Originally Posted by triehle
It is the TSORon Hardened Terrorists Get to the Airport, See What TSA Has in Store for Them, Turn Tail and Run Back to the Drawing Board test.
I don't think it's fair to cherry pick a few comments, potentially out of context, from the discussions on this board and treat it as if it's an official TSA press release.
You wouldn't assume that any of the FAs on this board are speaking officially on behalf of their airline, would you?
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CHIC SILBER , May 24, 2009 8:58 pm
Me two for TPA
They seem to pay attention and don't make you feel
like everyone is either REALLY stupid or trying to get
away with something
Efficient & Courteous
They seem to pay attention and don't make you feel
like everyone is either REALLY stupid or trying to get
away with something
Efficient & Courteous
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mjcewl1284 , May 25, 2009 5:41 am
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Just keep lining up.
Let me know when those airports are fitted with gas chambers. Originally Posted by Lumpy
Efficiency being the standard, it would be very hard to determine between DEN, TPA, MSP, Treblinka or Dachau. All very, VERY efficient at expediting passage, though.Just keep lining up.
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mjcewl1284 , May 25, 2009 5:43 am
I also find it that most airport checkpoints that are not overstaffed with TSA people run the most smoothly. But that is very very very few.
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HSVTSO Dean , May 25, 2009 6:32 am
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It's been my experience that there's an optimal number of screeners that can work on one lane. Go higher than that number, and people will start to trip on each other and get in everybody else's way, and efficiency actually starts to drag.Originally Posted by mjcewl1284
I also find it that most airport checkpoints that are not overstaffed with TSA people run the most smoothly.
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Maybe you should bring that observation up the food chain to management.Originally Posted by HSVTSO Dean
It's been my experience that there's an optimal number of screeners that can work on one lane. Go higher than that number, and people will start to trip on each other and get in everybody else's way, and efficiency actually starts to drag.
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HSVTSO Dean , May 25, 2009 6:53 am
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Well. Our management knows~Originally Posted by IslandBased
Maybe you should bring that observation up the food chain to management.
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That's because you live in a town full of rocket scientists..Originally Posted by HSVTSO Dean
Well. Our management knows~