Can I upgrade from standby? (consolidated)
#1
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Can I upgrade from standby? (consolidated)
booked on an afternoon flight LGA_ORD today. my upgrade cleared. then my schedule changed and I wanted to take an earlier flight. Was told that it was "wide open".
The ticket agent at the front counter gave me a BP without a seat. She told me that, since I was standby, I needed to go to the gate to get a seat assignment and to get on the upgrade list.
Went to the AC, where I was given a BP with a coach seat, and told that I had been placed on the upgrade list.
About 30 min before the flight, I went to the gate. Saw the upgrade list on the monitor, but my name wasn't on it. Asked the GA, who told me that since I was standing by, I wasn't eligible for an upgrade. She essentially said that pax originally ticketed on that flight had priority for upgrades and I wasn't eligible.
All things considered, I was glad to get a seat on the earlier flight. However, I don't recall a rule that says standbys can't get upgrades. In fact, I'm pretty sure that I've been upgraded from standby in the past.
fwiw, the GA seemed to be experienced and competent. Just wondering if there's a policy about standbys on the upgrade list. Any thoughts?
The ticket agent at the front counter gave me a BP without a seat. She told me that, since I was standby, I needed to go to the gate to get a seat assignment and to get on the upgrade list.
Went to the AC, where I was given a BP with a coach seat, and told that I had been placed on the upgrade list.
About 30 min before the flight, I went to the gate. Saw the upgrade list on the monitor, but my name wasn't on it. Asked the GA, who told me that since I was standing by, I wasn't eligible for an upgrade. She essentially said that pax originally ticketed on that flight had priority for upgrades and I wasn't eligible.
All things considered, I was glad to get a seat on the earlier flight. However, I don't recall a rule that says standbys can't get upgrades. In fact, I'm pretty sure that I've been upgraded from standby in the past.
fwiw, the GA seemed to be experienced and competent. Just wondering if there's a policy about standbys on the upgrade list. Any thoughts?
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Yes, you can get upgrades when standing by; we've done it. But the part about being behind the current pax is true, within tier. If you were told that you were after all pax, including GLD, that is not correct. When we did this, being EXP placed us at the top. There were no others requesting upgrades out of MCO, so it was moot, though.
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booked on an afternoon flight LGA_ORD today. my upgrade cleared. then my schedule changed and I wanted to take an earlier flight. Was told that it was "wide open".
The ticket agent at the front counter gave me a BP without a seat. She told me that, since I was standby, I needed to go to the gate to get a seat assignment and to get on the upgrade list.
Went to the AC, where I was given a BP with a coach seat, and told that I had been placed on the upgrade list.
About 30 min before the flight, I went to the gate. Saw the upgrade list on the monitor, but my name wasn't on it. Asked the GA, who told me that since I was standing by, I wasn't eligible for an upgrade. She essentially said that pax originally ticketed on that flight had priority for upgrades and I wasn't eligible.
All things considered, I was glad to get a seat on the earlier flight. However, I don't recall a rule that says standbys can't get upgrades. In fact, I'm pretty sure that I've been upgraded from standby in the past.
fwiw, the GA seemed to be experienced and competent. Just wondering if there's a policy about standbys on the upgrade list. Any thoughts?
The ticket agent at the front counter gave me a BP without a seat. She told me that, since I was standby, I needed to go to the gate to get a seat assignment and to get on the upgrade list.
Went to the AC, where I was given a BP with a coach seat, and told that I had been placed on the upgrade list.
About 30 min before the flight, I went to the gate. Saw the upgrade list on the monitor, but my name wasn't on it. Asked the GA, who told me that since I was standing by, I wasn't eligible for an upgrade. She essentially said that pax originally ticketed on that flight had priority for upgrades and I wasn't eligible.
All things considered, I was glad to get a seat on the earlier flight. However, I don't recall a rule that says standbys can't get upgrades. In fact, I'm pretty sure that I've been upgraded from standby in the past.
fwiw, the GA seemed to be experienced and competent. Just wondering if there's a policy about standbys on the upgrade list. Any thoughts?
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Yes, you can get upgrades when standing by; we've done it. But the part about being behind the current pax is true, within tier. If you were told that you were after all pax, including GLD, that is not correct. When we did this, being EXP placed us at the top. There were no others requesting upgrades out of MCO, so it was moot, though.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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About 30 min before the flight, I went to the gate. Saw the upgrade list on the monitor, but my name wasn't on it. Asked the GA, who told me that since I was standing by, I wasn't eligible for an upgrade. She essentially said that pax originally ticketed on that flight had priority for upgrades and I wasn't eligible.
My strategy is exactly what you described, that is, get an actual Y seat from AC, then wait at the gate for F. Per my discussion with an AC rep, this is the most effective way. If you are waiting for a seat from the GA, then as OP said, they typically clear upgrades before standby.
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If OP was not a standby anymore, why couldn't OP be eligible for upgrades?
A question to OP - did anyone on the upgrade list get upgraded?
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My experience is that if you are standby and even if you have a boarding pass with a seat assignment, you are still classified as a standby passenger and should be considered for an upgrade after all confirmed pax.
Last edited by aamilesslave; Jan 13, 2009 at 9:22 pm
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Yes, you can get upgrades when standing by; we've done it. But the part about being behind the current pax is true, within tier. If you were told that you were after all pax, including GLD, that is not correct. When we did this, being EXP placed us at the top. There were no others requesting upgrades out of MCO, so it was moot, though.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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My only missed upgrade in 2008 was due to the confirmed passengers having first dibs on the FC seats, even over EXP standbys w/ seat assignments. Even being at the back of the line, however, I have cleared standby into first a few times when all upgrade requests were accommodated and at least one seat was left. Another reason why the requirement for stickers for PLT and GLD is to the advantage of EXPs.
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Not doubting, but are you sure of the rule? On UA, it is different. You MUST be confirmed on the flight in Y before you can even get on the list for an upgrade. So that means that all confirmed pax on that flight will get the upgraded seat before standbys, if the flight is full.
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Once you clear standby into Y, you do become eligible for the upghrade list. But the way most agents process it, lower level upgrade requests may have already cleared before that point, putting you behind them for the F seat.
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On a Sunday, flying from LAX - SFO (not a big day for business travellers so F was only half full) I was booked on the 7pm flight but got in from LHR early so was standby on the 4:30pm flight. I didn't have a seat assignment, but the TA gave me a boarding pass since the flight wasn't full. So I went to the AC and the agent gave me a seat in First. I was on an confirmed eVIP upgrade already, starting at LHR, so that probably gave me priority over other pax for the upgrade even though it was standby.
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On a Sunday, flying from LAX - SFO (not a big day for business travellers so F was only half full) I was booked on the 7pm flight but got in from LHR early so was standby on the 4:30pm flight. I didn't have a seat assignment, but the TA gave me a boarding pass since the flight wasn't full. So I went to the AC and the agent gave me a seat in First. I was on an confirmed eVIP upgrade already, starting at LHR, so that probably gave me priority over other pax for the upgrade even though it was standby.
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Once you clear standby into Y, you do become eligible for the upghrade list. But the way most agents process it, lower level upgrade requests may have already cleared before that point, putting you behind them for the F seat.