Singapore KrisFlyer marketing partnership changing: 2 SPG = 1 mile
Apr 16, 2008, 12:28 pm
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Singapore KrisFlyer marketing partnership changing: 2 SPG = 1 mile
Both the transfer ratio for Starwood Preferred Guest Starpoints to Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer miles and the transfer ratio for Airline Direct Deposit transactions of Starwood Preferred Guest Starpoints to Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer miles will be changing from 1:1 to 2:1, effective 3 PM EDT today.
This means 2 Starpoints will now equal 1 KrisFlyer mile for both airline transfer awards and Airline Direct Deposit transactions following the change.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Online Guest Feedback Coordinator
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
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This means 2 Starpoints will now equal 1 KrisFlyer mile for both airline transfer awards and Airline Direct Deposit transactions following the change.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Online Guest Feedback Coordinator
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
[email protected]
Apr 16, 2008, 2:30 pm
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Not great news, but you're a good man for giving us what heads-up you were able to. Thanks, William.
Apr 16, 2008, 3:01 pm
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I better start transfering my points to a particular airline I've been wanting to do. I bet that airline will soon follow 2:1 
Apr 16, 2008, 3:07 pm
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So QF is leaving, SQ is being devaluated by 50%. William, is Starwood looking at re-designing all airline partnerships?
Apr 16, 2008, 4:10 pm
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First UA, now SQ - I wonder if all *A are going to eventually go to this? Of course, NZ is already at 65:1 with their Airpoints program, as it's a bit different.
If SPG points begin to lose too much value, some may go for airline branded credit cards more, and reduce use of SPG cards, I suspect. Granted, this is still a small number of airlines with the devalued transfer ratios...
If SPG points begin to lose too much value, some may go for airline branded credit cards more, and reduce use of SPG cards, I suspect. Granted, this is still a small number of airlines with the devalued transfer ratios...
Apr 16, 2008, 4:17 pm
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Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Online Guest Feedback Coordinator
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
[email protected]
Apr 16, 2008, 5:55 pm
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I would bet that SQ pulled the chain on this one.
They seem to currently think they are in a very strong position. Fair enough, they have been doing very well financially for ages - but I can't wait to see when their premium loads drop due to economic turnmoil.
They seem to currently think they are in a very strong position. Fair enough, they have been doing very well financially for ages - but I can't wait to see when their premium loads drop due to economic turnmoil.
Apr 16, 2008, 7:18 pm
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Thanks for the advanced notice to 1/2 of the world William, but ahem, ahem, that's pretty cruddy notice for those of us on this side of the planet (and those most likely to be SQ FF members and want to execute on that notice). I guess I didnt get up early enough to get the worm this morning! By the time I logged into SPG the ratio had been switched...
Apr 17, 2008, 10:58 am
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You mean like during the SARS epidemic in 2003? I remember flying SQ then and there were more FA's than pax in business class! You could have bought SQ stock for cheap then.
Apr 17, 2008, 4:12 pm
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In February I was on the SFO-ICN-SIN 77W in J.
The loads were 0 in F, 7 in J and 89 in Y.
I had the entire second J cabin for myself ... and plenty of time to check out the F seat. As there was nobody in F the crew let me play around with the new seat.
The loads were 0 in F, 7 in J and 89 in Y.
I had the entire second J cabin for myself ... and plenty of time to check out the F seat. As there was nobody in F the crew let me play around with the new seat.
Apr 17, 2008, 4:46 pm
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I was going to transfer roughly 90k on 11th of this month when usually my SPG points post. This time it didn't post on time and I opened a service request and they're still "investigating"
Just my luck.
Ironically,I was just recommending SPG card to my coworker and I was showing him the list of airlines when I noticed the 2:1 ratio.
How come we don't get a notification of this unlike the Quantas??
Sorry about the rant William, it wasn't directed towards you.
Thanks for the notification though.
Apr 17, 2008, 5:04 pm
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In the parallel thread in the SQ forum, somebody pointed out that the Amex Membership Rewards to SQ ratio is still 1:1.
While that doesn't help those of us that have lots of SPG points, it is an option for some moving forward if your target is SQ. Of course, there's no guarantee that MR:SQ will remain at 1:1.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=813715
-David
While that doesn't help those of us that have lots of SPG points, it is an option for some moving forward if your target is SQ. Of course, there's no guarantee that MR:SQ will remain at 1:1.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=813715
-David
Apr 17, 2008, 5:36 pm
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I wouldn't bet on them losing too much business. Most Asian economies are strong and growing and SQ is well-positioned to take a lot of that traffic.
Apr 17, 2008, 9:32 pm
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In the parallel thread in the SQ forum, somebody pointed out that the Amex Membership Rewards to SQ ratio is still 1:1.
While that doesn't help those of us that have lots of SPG points, it is an option for some moving forward if your target is SQ. Of course, there's no guarantee that MR:SQ will remain at 1:1.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=813715
-David
While that doesn't help those of us that have lots of SPG points, it is an option for some moving forward if your target is SQ. Of course, there's no guarantee that MR:SQ will remain at 1:1.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=813715
-David
As for AMEX, I wouldn't bet on that redemption level changing anytime soon. SQ just signed on. As us looong suffering MR people know all too well, the program is nothing if not staid.
Apr 18, 2008, 2:14 am
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They have just changed them this month to be 4:3
They did the same with CX, MH & TG at the same time. (all were 2:1 also)