RDU-LGW to remain B777
Feb 24, 2006, 3:04 pm
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RDU-LGW to remain B777
Full with remorse, AA has decided against putting a B763 on RDU-LGW this summer. The flight will continue to operate with a B777. Makes sense as this flight is usually full in F and J, although Y may go out with only 60 passengers.
Feb 24, 2006, 3:15 pm
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So GSK won, eh?
Feb 24, 2006, 3:20 pm
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Or AA realized they had an extra B777 on hand. They're slow sometimes.
Feb 24, 2006, 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by xfly
Full with remorse, AA has decided against putting a B763 on RDU-LGW this summer. The flight will continue to operate with a B777. Makes sense as this flight is usually full in F and J, although Y may go out with only 60 passengers.
Also, while everyone here talks about Y going out empty, I have done 10 or so trips on this plane and never had Y go out less than 60% full. These have all been on the outbound. On the return to RDU, I have NEVER seen more than 5 free seats in Y, and that was seldom. Maybe its just since I travel mostly during high season, but its not nearly as bad when I go as some would believe.
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Feb 24, 2006, 3:29 pm
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The B777 goes out light in Y during the off season. It is full during holidays/summers. However, yearround, AA174/AA173 has the lowest load factor of any AA transatlantic flight yet the highest yield due to F and J.
Feb 24, 2006, 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by xfly
However, yearround, AA174/AA173 has the lowest load factor of any AA transatlantic flight yet the highest yield due to F and J.
I would have thought LAX-LHR might have rather high yields.
Feb 24, 2006, 3:45 pm
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There is a very low number of paid F but about 40 J (GSK contract fare) passengers a day. These fill up the J cabin and some upgrade to F.
Feb 24, 2006, 4:16 pm
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People do pay for F on that flight.... not a whole cabin full, but enough to make things interesting.
There are a few Glaxo employees who fly paid F on the flight... at least there were back when I was AA. I used to look!
There are a few Glaxo employees who fly paid F on the flight... at least there were back when I was AA. I used to look!
Feb 24, 2006, 4:40 pm
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The RDU-LGW route has specific contract requirements from a very large company that pays for this service. The F service is unlike any other IFS service in the AA system. It will be an extremely cold day when this route has anything less than a 777.
Feb 24, 2006, 4:47 pm
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It has been difficult for AA to keep the B777 on the route due to the light loads in Y during some periods. And this flight is not subsidized, as some think. As a matter of fact, it operated with a B762 for many years. The F class service, à la carte, is different than other IFS flights. However, this was to be a test and later to be expanded to all other IFS flights. Budget cutbacks at food and beverage made this impossible, but AA174/AA173 have kept this unique feature.
sluggoaafa's comments are cute, but unfortunately not close to reality. AA could only dream of a "very large company that pays for this service." Like GSK would pay to have a different F class service!!!
sluggoaafa's comments are cute, but unfortunately not close to reality. AA could only dream of a "very large company that pays for this service." Like GSK would pay to have a different F class service!!!
Feb 24, 2006, 5:00 pm
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Um yeah....Make sure you read the TS report...yeah...
um...yeah. Unfortunately, I must inform you that there is a large corporate account that does specifically pay for this type of special service. Hence why the F product is much different than any other IFS route.
Unless they decided to lie to the Purser group,(which I highly doubt) I have a hard time believing anything else.
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Unless they decided to lie to the Purser group,(which I highly doubt) I have a hard time believing anything else.
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Feb 24, 2006, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by sluggoaafa
The RDU-LGW route has specific contract requirements from a very large company that pays for this service. The F service is unlike any other IFS service in the AA system.
Feb 24, 2006, 6:28 pm
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Feb 24, 2006, 6:35 pm
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Bring It Back To Topic....
Please keep out the personal attacks or baiting..... thanks everyone.
Feb 24, 2006, 6:42 pm
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Well bummer... now I'm going to have to spend some miles and fly F on this route just to see what the service is all about. 
Last time I saw the P & L's for international flights, this one was surprisingly near the top of the list.
Last time I saw the P & L's for international flights, this one was surprisingly near the top of the list.