AA / BA / Virgin - Infant/Child Comparisons
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AA / BA / Virgin - Infant/Child Comparisons
AA / BA / Virgin - Infant/Child Comparisons
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Hi Guys, I started to do some research into the Infant/Child options and thought it might be useful to add this to a wiki, admins please put this where appropriate.
Thanks
Rich
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Remembering that:
Infant ticket = Lap Child with no seat
Child ticket = discounted ticket for a Child with a seat
------------ American Airlines ------------
AA 1) Revenue AA Lap Child ticket in USA domestic = Free + Tax (This is great value)
AA 2) Revenue AA Lap Child ticket international = 10% of fare (From Experience 20% -> 60%, see note below )
AA 3) Revenue AA Infant/Child SEAT international = 75% - 80 % of adult fare
AA 4) Miles AA Lap Child ticket international = 100% Miles
AA 5) Miles AA Infant/Child SEAT international = 100% Miles (Which is just like an adult)
------------ British Airways ------------
BA 1) Revenue BA Lap Child ticket domestic = 10% of adult fare + Discounted Tax
BA 2) Revenue BA Lap Child ticket international = 10% of adult fare + Discounted Tax (From experience 15% -> 30%, see note below)
BA 3) Revenue BA Infant/Child SEAT international = 75% - 99 % of adult fare
BA 4) Miles BA Lap Child ticket international = 10% Miles + Discounted Tax (This is great value)
BA 5) Miles Infant/Child SEAT international = 100% Miles (Which is just like an adult)
------------ Virgin Atlantic ------------
Virgin 1) Revenue Virgin Lap Child ticket domestic = N/A
Virgin 2) Revenue Virgin Lap Child ticket international = 10% of adult fare + Discounted Tax (From experience 15% -> 30%, see note below)
Virgin 3) Revenue Virgin Infant/Child SEAT international = 75% - 99 % of adult fare
Virgin 4) Miles Virgin Lap Child ticket international = 10% Miles + Discounted Tax (This is great value)
Virgin 5) Miles Virgin Infant/Child SEAT international = 100% Miles (Which is just like an adult)
------------ Notes ------------
On AA with "AA 2) Revenue AA Lap Child ticket international = 10% of fare " from experience if you upgrade J->F, I have paid ($1200-$1800 for F lap child) and ($900-$1500 for J lap child) this is nowhere near the 10% which AA claim and others think. As its 10% of a fully flexibile fare, not what you paid. This is more like 30% to 60% of a ticket with a seat.
Also no meal is provided for an infant and obviously no seat.
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Hi Guys, I started to do some research into the Infant/Child options and thought it might be useful to add this to a wiki, admins please put this where appropriate.
Thanks
Rich
------------
Remembering that:
Infant ticket = Lap Child with no seat
Child ticket = discounted ticket for a Child with a seat
------------ American Airlines ------------
AA 1) Revenue AA Lap Child ticket in USA domestic = Free + Tax (This is great value)
AA 2) Revenue AA Lap Child ticket international = 10% of fare (From Experience 20% -> 60%, see note below )
AA 3) Revenue AA Infant/Child SEAT international = 75% - 80 % of adult fare
AA 4) Miles AA Lap Child ticket international = 100% Miles
AA 5) Miles AA Infant/Child SEAT international = 100% Miles (Which is just like an adult)
------------ British Airways ------------
BA 1) Revenue BA Lap Child ticket domestic = 10% of adult fare + Discounted Tax
BA 2) Revenue BA Lap Child ticket international = 10% of adult fare + Discounted Tax (From experience 15% -> 30%, see note below)
BA 3) Revenue BA Infant/Child SEAT international = 75% - 99 % of adult fare
BA 4) Miles BA Lap Child ticket international = 10% Miles + Discounted Tax (This is great value)
BA 5) Miles Infant/Child SEAT international = 100% Miles (Which is just like an adult)
------------ Virgin Atlantic ------------
Virgin 1) Revenue Virgin Lap Child ticket domestic = N/A
Virgin 2) Revenue Virgin Lap Child ticket international = 10% of adult fare + Discounted Tax (From experience 15% -> 30%, see note below)
Virgin 3) Revenue Virgin Infant/Child SEAT international = 75% - 99 % of adult fare
Virgin 4) Miles Virgin Lap Child ticket international = 10% Miles + Discounted Tax (This is great value)
Virgin 5) Miles Virgin Infant/Child SEAT international = 100% Miles (Which is just like an adult)
------------ Notes ------------
On AA with "AA 2) Revenue AA Lap Child ticket international = 10% of fare " from experience if you upgrade J->F, I have paid ($1200-$1800 for F lap child) and ($900-$1500 for J lap child) this is nowhere near the 10% which AA claim and others think. As its 10% of a fully flexibile fare, not what you paid. This is more like 30% to 60% of a ticket with a seat.
Also no meal is provided for an infant and obviously no seat.
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Thank you....
I'm taking a 20 month old and 3 1/2 year old to PVG in November - Milesavers for the front of the 777 were available - I feel a lot better about the choice -
Great comparisons - !!!
Great comparisons - !!!
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Thank you for taking the time to put this together. The AA policy on int'l lap children is absurd.
For the amount of money they charge for a lap child in J, I have taken the decision to no longer go the lap child route. Instead, I am buying my infant a Y ticket and upgrading them to J with an EVIP. So AA loses a seat in J when they could, if they were reasonable about their lap child fares in that cabin, keep the J seat for a possible revenue sale AND generate some (hopefully small) amount of incremental revenue from the lap child fare.
For the amount of money they charge for a lap child in J, I have taken the decision to no longer go the lap child route. Instead, I am buying my infant a Y ticket and upgrading them to J with an EVIP. So AA loses a seat in J when they could, if they were reasonable about their lap child fares in that cabin, keep the J seat for a possible revenue sale AND generate some (hopefully small) amount of incremental revenue from the lap child fare.
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Thanks for the comparisons! AA 1) doesn't seem 100% correct... flying within the U.S. we've never had to pay a dime, but U.S. to Canada (and vice versa) there's usually $20-25 in fees or taxes.
#6
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I think also what would be useful is the policy comparison on infants without a seat (lap child) who are under 2 on the outbound and then over 2 on the inbound.
In this situation I think BA has the policy of a complimentary upgrade to an infant in a seat on the inbound. I have no personal experience of this, so not confident to say how it works.
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Thank you for taking the time to put this together. The AA policy on int'l lap children is absurd.
For the amount of money they charge for a lap child in J, I have taken the decision to no longer go the lap child route. Instead, I am buying my infant a Y ticket and upgrading them to J with an EVIP. So AA loses a seat in J when they could, if they were reasonable about their lap child fares in that cabin, keep the J seat for a possible revenue sale AND generate some (hopefully small) amount of incremental revenue from the lap child fare.
For the amount of money they charge for a lap child in J, I have taken the decision to no longer go the lap child route. Instead, I am buying my infant a Y ticket and upgrading them to J with an EVIP. So AA loses a seat in J when they could, if they were reasonable about their lap child fares in that cabin, keep the J seat for a possible revenue sale AND generate some (hopefully small) amount of incremental revenue from the lap child fare.
Also, AA does not lose a seat in J. If AA knew it could sell that seat, they will never allow a SWU to clear.
If you have a confirmed J and you are trying to upgrade your infant to J from Y, be prepared for complications if the upgrade does not clear.