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Old May 22, 2016, 7:23 am
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QA CR9 fleet grounded for inspections 22-27MAY2016

Are these CRJ9 from SAS or QA/WX?

22MAY16
Unplanned technical inspection of aircraft type CRJ9 (22MAY16 UTC 10:20)
Unplanned technical inspection of aircraft type CRJ9 will cause cancellatios during all day 22MAY16. Some cancellations to be expected 23MAY16.

Passengers will be rebooked by SAS.
Rebooking

Rebooking permitted free of charge to other SK operated flight for passengers booked on cancelled flights 22MAY16, holding SK/117 document.
Rebooking to be made in the same booking class, or lowest available booking class in the same service class as originally booked.

Tickets must be reissued with FE line:

FE INVOL DU TO IRR 22MAY16
Travel agents

Above procedure also valid for travel agents.

Refund

Permitted if flight is cancelled
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Old May 22, 2016, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Are these CRJ9 from SAS or QA/WX?
I think those are SAS CRJ9s, e.g.:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kfa
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kfd
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kff
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kfl

while the three WX and CityJet machines are in the air.

QA never had CRJ9, only CRJ2 as far as I know.

Looks like it started with https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kfk and now they are looking at the others for issues as well? Any info on SK676 from yesterday?
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Old May 22, 2016, 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by fassy
Any info on SK676 from yesterday?
The Aviation Herald has this:

A SAS Scandinavian Airlines Canadair CRJ-900, registration OY-KFK performing flight SK-676 from Frankfurt/Main (Germany) to Copenhagen (Denmark), was climbing out of Frankfurt's runway 25C when the crew stopped the climb at 6000 feet after the landing gear did not retract. The aircraft returned to Frankfurt for a safe landing on runway 25C about 20 minutes after departure.

The flight was cancelled.

A passenger reported the captain announced the landing gear would not retract hence they needed to return to Frankfurt.

The occurrence aircraft is still on the ground in Frankfurt 25 hours after landing.
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Old May 22, 2016, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by fassy
I think those are SAS CRJ9s, e.g.:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kfa
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kfd
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kff
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kfl

while the three WX and CityJet machines are in the air.

QA never had CRJ9, only CRJ2 as far as I know.

Looks like it started with https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kfk and now they are looking at the others for issues as well? Any info on SK676 from yesterday?
SAS are currently using 21 CRJ9 planes. 10 are leased from Air Nostrum or Cityjet. The rest was suppose to be owned by Cimber, but according to airfleets.net, they are still owned by SAS?? http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/SAS-active-crj.htm
It looks like all the SAS CRJ9 birds has been grounded or ferried to CPH for inspection, but some already seems to be back in service like https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-kff

Cimber seams to only have one active CRJ9, http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/C...active-crj.htm and it's grounded too.
All Cimbers CRJ1 and 2 birds seems to be stored. http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Cimber%20AS.htm
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Old May 23, 2016, 8:40 am
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OY-KFH is up and about today; OY-KFF was flying over the weekend and operated CPH-GOT-CPH this morning, but has now had a CPH-WRO rotation cancelled. The remaining OY-KFn series are all sitting in CPH.
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Old May 23, 2016, 10:15 am
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Now its the rest of the week:

MAY
23MAY16
Unplanned technical inspection of aircraft type CRJ9 (23MAY16 08:50 UTC)
Unplanned technical inspection of aircraft type CRJ9 will cause cancellations 22MAY16-26MAY16.

Passengers will be rebooked by SAS.
Rebooking

Rebooking permitted free of charge to other SK operated flight for passengers booked on cancelled flights 22MAY16-26MAY16, holding SK/117 document.
Rebooking to be made in the same booking class, or lowest available booking class in the same service class as originally booked.

Tickets must be reissued with FE line:

FE INVOL DUE TO IRR 22MAY16
Travel agents

Above procedure also valid for travel agents.

Refund
Permitted if flight is cancelled.
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Old May 23, 2016, 12:10 pm
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What do these re-booking rules mean? What if all SK flights are operated by C9s between destinations in question? (this is true for many C9 destinations). Do they make people wait days? They don't rebook on other airlines same day? This would be a new low, in my experience. I hope I misinterpret the rules.
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Old May 23, 2016, 12:55 pm
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Don’t know who owns the CRJ9’s, but they are operated by Cimber.
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Old May 23, 2016, 2:03 pm
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Will flights be automatically rebooked or do we need to contact SAS?
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Old May 23, 2016, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by wazow
What do these re-booking rules mean? What if all SK flights are operated by C9s between destinations in question? (this is true for many C9 destinations). Do they make people wait days? They don't rebook on other airlines same day? This would be a new low, in my experience. I hope I misinterpret the rules.
It's SAS you are flying with, not ryanair or easyjet. SAS will do what they can to reduce your delay. They don't want to pay for hotels etc. Depending on the destination it might be served by another SAS bird, or you will be rebooked on another airline.
With the codes in the reservation system I actually thinks your TA will be able to change your ticket or refund it, even if it's none refundable.

I was in DUS over the weekend and was scheduled on the evening CRJ900 back home on Sunday. Was rebooked by SAS on AirBerlin (A319). Total delay 1 hour. Waiting with patient to see you I have to argue to get my eurobonus points for that flight.

The AirBerlin staff was rude, both before boarding and during the flight.
Had to argue to be allowed to bring my 8.5KG trolly in the cabin, instead of having it checked at the gate. It was only overweight due to the duty free from the airport, and wasn't going to have that in checked luggage.
During the flight someones drinking bottle leaked water in the overhead bin. It dripped a little on a passenger and the stewardess went nuts.
Later a kid had problems with his ears and was crying. The stewardess just looked at the mother and said not her problem. A piece of gum from another passenger solved the problem.

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Old May 23, 2016, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Chokkoubin
Will flights be automatically rebooked or do we need to contact SAS?
Flights will automatically be rebooks, and if SAS has your mobile number, you will get an SMS with the rebooking info. I was notified about the change on my Sunday flight 5 hours ahead of takeoff.
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Old May 23, 2016, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Tango Alpha
Don’t know who owns the CRJ9’s, but they are operated by Cimber.
Aaccording to airfleets.net and planespotters.net they are owned by SAS and only operated by Cimber.

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Old May 23, 2016, 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by highupinthesky
I heard that too, but according to airfleets.net they are owned by SAS.
As far as I know SAS bought Cimber and had a plan to transfer both pilots and machines over to Cimber. Anyway, the SAS Pilots didn't like that idea and SAS realized there is no benefit in transferring the planes over in the first place.

So, everything stays as it is - just that there is a sticker "operated by Cimber", QA sold/stored their machines and the flights are staffed by a mix of QA and SK staff... seems to be badly managed transition, but I didn't expect anything different.
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Old May 23, 2016, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by fassy
As far as I know SAS bought Cimber and had a plan to transfer both pilots and machines over to Cimber. Anyway, the SAS Pilots didn't like that idea and SAS realized there is no benefit in transferring the planes over in the first place.

So, everything stays as it is - just that there is a sticker "operated by Cimber", QA sold/stored their machines and the flights are staffed by a mix of QA and SK staff... seems to be badly managed transition, but I didn't expect anything different.
I think the transfer of crew went through, but most of them got transferred back because of the expansion on long haul. This was part of the deal when the crew accepted to be transferred to Cimber. New crew are hired in Cimber as far as I knew, and then transferred to SAS as they need new crew. At least that was the plan.

But I agree the whole deal around Cimber looks quite messy, also with the plans to rename it to Red1, and then selling off Blue1 and dropping the Red1 renaming. Guess the lower oil prices changed the focus.
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Old May 24, 2016, 7:25 am
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Just sitting on a Danish Air Transport machine OU-RUD. SAS contracted them to help out...

DO NOT book seat 4D and 4F if you do not like flying seated backwards. Quite weird and very uncomfortable seat...

Btw.: the pilot said the CR9 fleet is grounded until further notice

EDIT:// that were really uncomfortable 55 minutes on 4D. If you check-in and see a plane config without the first three rows on the right hand side go for row 5 D/F for the emergency exit and be prepared to sit face to face with the poor guys in 4 A/F.

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