SAS Go Light [FAQ & Discussions]
Aug 18, 2015, 2:58 pm
#61
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Yep, same here. This is the one part of the SAS strategy I just don't get. Back to basic market positioning from Uni with the like of Michael Porter who suggested you had to be a price leader or a differentiator. You cant be stuck in the middle. SAS are doing all they can not to differentiate, i.e they are adopting all the budget airline tools such as no baggage fares, no "free" meal or drink service, little value in loyalty programs etc, but they still remain more expensive. My recent family vacation was a case in point. Prior to recent points devaluation I would have always flown SAS (and always did) chasing the points and status. This time there was so little in it that price and schedule won out so it was Norwegian one way and SAS the other.
If you are going to compete on price alone you better darn well make sure your price is compelling.
If you are going to compete on price alone you better darn well make sure your price is compelling.
Their first no-frill "snowflake" is like a joke to me - FS price No Frill service. Then this "snowflake" RIP and then the whole SK turns into a semi-no-frill which is pretty much the situation now.
The 100% point thing was one of the best things they have done in the past 5 years or so, and it convinced me to fly with them (I'd rather change plane and get FS treatment than flying direct with SK). That one is also RIP and so what's next - slim themselves down first by introducing a 100 kr. discount for not taking a check bag with you?
If you are so desperate in cash you'd probably pick other LCC, why pay double to get a cup of coffee/tea and free download of a bunch of online newspaper and some points (points are pretty useless unless you fly quite some)?
I fly them when I find a good deal - since we are travelling out of our pockets, and the only reason why they are bearable due to us being *A G. Lounge access gave me the FS treatment before my flight so I don't need to wait for my tray of food to be thrown at me.
If SK is smart, they could offer miles for choosing not to check bags in (at the time of reservation), say 1000 per pax - a bit like not having breakfast as a Marriott Gold member. This way you could please a lot of business customers who are HBO.
Aug 19, 2015, 10:35 am
#62
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Aug 20, 2015, 2:15 am
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Aug 20, 2015, 4:21 am
#64
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No, probably you're right. The current economy promos are already the lowest fare classes available and it probably will stay that way.
Aug 22, 2015, 8:29 am
#65
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Only reason I booked with SK previously was because of the included baggage. Apart from the free coffee / tea, there is no difference between them and Ryanair at Dublin now. They even use the same crappy low cost pier (without airbridges) as FR. I know what airline I'll be switching over to.
Sep 8, 2015, 12:22 am
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The terms/details:
Code:
New concept SAS Go Light
Effective 08SEP15, SAS will introduce a new concept, SAS Go Light, on selected European destinations.
SAS Go Light is a new concept to expand the offer to our customers who want to travel light, those who are looking for lower prices and does not have the need to travel with checked baggage.
SAS Go Light will be available in the same booking classes as SAS Go, but will be offered to a lower fare than SAS Go and exclude checked baggage allowance in the ticket.
It will be possible to buy checked baggage, as well as other additional services, from time of reservation until departure. For passengers who want to travel with checked baggage, it will be more favorable to buy a SAS Go ticket with baggage included.
SAS Go Light is an additional customer offer to our current product offering SAS Go and SAS Plus, which will remain unchanged.
Eurobonus tier level benefits will remain unchanged, e.g. baggage allowance.
SAS Go Light customers will have the same service on board as SAS Go and for now SAS Go Light passengers will earn same amount of EuroBonus points as a passenger travelling in SAS Go.
SAS Go Light is available on all SK routes between Scandinavia and Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Netherlands and Spain.
Note: All code share routes are excluded. SAS Go Light is not available on routes within Scandinavia: domestic and/or intrascandinavian routes.
Booking classes and fare basis
SAS Go Light will be available in all booking classes below.
Booking class Fare basis
One way Fare basis
Round trip
E E*OLIGHT E*RLIGHT
M M*OLIGHT M*RLIGHT
H H*OLIGHT H*RLIGHT
Q Q*OLIGHT Q*RLIGHT
W W*OLIGHT W*RLIGHT
U U*OLIGHT U*RLIGHT
K K*OLIGHT K*RLIGHT
L L*OLIGHT L*RLIGHT
T T*OLIGHT T*RLIGHT
O O*OLIGHT O*RLIGHT
* Indicates variation in fare basis, depending on point of commencement of travel:
D = Denmark, N = Norway, S = Sweden, E = All other markets.
Fares will be available for all SAS offices and agents in all GDS’es.
SAS Go Light is filed as a private fare with a Corporate code as per below.
Amadeus Galileo Sabre Worldspan
513058 BAG07 BAG07 BAG07
Fare and pricing input
Amadeus
Fare Display SAS Go Light: FQDSTOPAR/R,U513058
Fare Display SAS Go Light + SAS Go: FQDSTOPAR/R,U513058, P
Fare Quote SAS Go Light: FXP/R,U513058
Fare Quote SAS Go Light + SAS Go: FXP/R,U513058, P
Galileo
Fare Display SAS Go Light: FDSTOPAR15JUL/SK-PRI-BAG07:P
Fare Quote SAS Go Light: FQ-ABAG07:SEK
Sabre
Fare Display SAS Go Light: FQSTOPAR14JUL-SK¥PV¥IUSMK01
Fare Quote SAS Go Light: WPAC*BAG07
Worldspan
Fare Display SAS Go Light: 4FBGOAMS14JULSR-SK/@@BAG07
Fare Quote SAS Go Light: 4PFSR¥/@@BAG07
Markets
Fares will be available for purchase from/to all SK operated points in Scandinavia from/to the following SK operated points in below European markets:
Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Netherlands and Spain
SAS Go Light is available for travel from Scandinavia and Europe and from Europe to Scandinavia
SAS Go Light is possible to combine with other SAS fares: SAS Go and SAS Plus
SAS Go Light is not combinable with SAS Corporate Net Fares
SAS Go Light is not available on code share flights
Origin and destinations
Fares will be available for purchase on SK routes between below origin and destinations.
Note: Above origin and destinations are subject to change.
Excess baggage charges
For passengers travelling in SAS Go Light, it will be possible to buy checked baggage as an ancillary service from time of reservation until departure.
It is also possible to add baggage for passengers travelling in SAS Go or SAS Plus.
Note: Charge is higher when purchasing baggage at airport.
Off airport At airport
European routes with SAS Go Light concept
Valid for SAS Go Light, SAS Go and SAS Plus DKK 169
NOK 185
SEK 199
EUR 25 DKK 500
NOK 540
SEK 600
EUR 66
All other European routes
Valid for SAS Go and SAS Plus
DKK 379
NOK 409
SEK 439
EUR 51 DKK 500
NOK 540
SEK 600
EUR 66
SAS Concept overview - short haul routes
SAS Go Light * SAS Go SAS Plus
Checked baggage For purchase 1 bag á 23 kg 2 bags á 23 kg
Hand baggage 1 x 8 kg 1 x 8 kg 1 x 8 kg
Rebooking Yes** - against a fee
700 DKK, NOK, SEK Yes - against a fee
500 DKK, NOK, SEK es
Refund No No Yes
Fast Track No No Yes
Lounge For purchase For purchase Yes
EuroBonus points Yes Yes Yes
Seat reservation For purchase For purchase Yes
Coffee and Tea Yes Yes Yes
Food For purchase For purchase Yes
* SAS Go Light is only available on selected SK operated European destinations.
** Rebooking is possible within SAS Go Light or to SAS Plus.
Also interesting is that e.g. HEL-ATH has no Go Light ticket option but each leg has.
EDIT: And I just read that SAS' condition seems to look better now. But nevertheless for the current year still in minus.
http://www.dn.se/ekonomi/sas-gjorde-miljardvinst/ (in Swedish)
Last edited by Jainzar; Sep 8, 2015 at 12:43 am
Sep 27, 2015, 2:50 pm
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Is this to be read only Eurobonus tier members or all star alliance members?
I mean, is the *G perk of one free extra luggage voided here?
Sep 27, 2015, 5:22 pm
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Jokes aside; wouldn't this create incentive to really credit to A3 in order to get to fly Go Light but receive Go (free luggage included)? Especially for EBS members?
I wonder if they'll release a Plus Light. I'd totally go for that. I even go to the states with a carry on only, so a Business Light would be marvelous, too.
Sep 27, 2015, 11:24 pm
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Even if they do, saving 10 to 30 bucks in a business (or long-haul Plus) ticket is not really worth consideration. I could e.g. Live with C-light in a sense of C-cabin, no luggage, standard Go catering but even that concept won't lower the price enough to introduce that kind of fare. I still think SK is way to expensive ex-Scandinavia in C. Just booked CPH-BOS in C for next week and SK wanted to have more than double of the AC ticket. BA was even lower but I like to stick to *A
Sep 27, 2015, 11:25 pm
#72
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The amount of extra revenue will surely be a tad lower if they include Greece Airways UltraMegaGold members in the list of people that get the free luggage?
Jokes aside; wouldn't this create incentive to really credit to A3 in order to get to fly Go Light but receive Go (free luggage included)? Especially for EBS members?
I wonder if they'll release a Plus Light. I'd totally go for that. I even go to the states with a carry on only, so a Business Light would be marvelous, too.
Jokes aside; wouldn't this create incentive to really credit to A3 in order to get to fly Go Light but receive Go (free luggage included)? Especially for EBS members?
I wonder if they'll release a Plus Light. I'd totally go for that. I even go to the states with a carry on only, so a Business Light would be marvelous, too.
(EBG and EBD have two extra pieces of luggage on SK flights, and one on *A flights, as per *G rules)
Last edited by ksu; Sep 28, 2015 at 1:59 am
Sep 28, 2015, 1:44 am
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The amount of extra revenue will surely be a tad lower if they include Greece Airways UltraMegaGold members in the list of people that get the free luggage?
Jokes aside; wouldn't this create incentive to really credit to A3 in order to get to fly Go Light but receive Go (free luggage included)? Especially for EBS members?
I wonder if they'll release a Plus Light. I'd totally go for that. I even go to the states with a carry on only, so a Business Light would be marvelous, too.
Jokes aside; wouldn't this create incentive to really credit to A3 in order to get to fly Go Light but receive Go (free luggage included)? Especially for EBS members?
I wonder if they'll release a Plus Light. I'd totally go for that. I even go to the states with a carry on only, so a Business Light would be marvelous, too.
Why credit to A3? I don't even think you get anything for the deep discounted Y, even EB doesn't give you 100%. Also with A3 you really have to fly them in order to re-qualify (or you need to fly a certain miles which is not that low - pretty similar to EBG - 40k), so it's not as mega anymore especially 1 year from now.
Actually what I would like is to get a business seat but getting Y food/nothing. If I fly long haul all I want is a good sleep (like a long overnight ferry crossing), I don't care what wine/food they serve. I would have eaten at the lounge before boarding anyway. However I don't think airlines like the idea as this will not make the business class "luxury" as those amenities are cheap to buy anyway.
Sep 28, 2015, 1:47 am
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Ah, the ever so chipper and helpful FUD crowd at SK forum. Visiting these parts of flyertalk is always as big a delight as flying SK.
Well, if the combined smarts of FT doesn't come through, I guess going to the source is needed. I called SK and asked how many bags I was allowed on my next SK trip. Was told 2 for my plus segment and 1 for my Go light segment. I'm usually in plus and usually without bags so it is a new situation for me.
The CS rep sounded a bit uncertain though, so if anyone with actual experience of go light, bags and *G could chip in I'd appreciate it.
Well, if the combined smarts of FT doesn't come through, I guess going to the source is needed. I called SK and asked how many bags I was allowed on my next SK trip. Was told 2 for my plus segment and 1 for my Go light segment. I'm usually in plus and usually without bags so it is a new situation for me.
The CS rep sounded a bit uncertain though, so if anyone with actual experience of go light, bags and *G could chip in I'd appreciate it.
Sep 28, 2015, 8:11 am
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Why should they? EBS will always includes a free checked bag, no need for Gold.
Even if they do, saving 10 to 30 bucks in a business (or long-haul Plus) ticket is not really worth consideration. I could e.g. Live with C-light in a sense of C-cabin, no luggage, standard Go catering but even that concept won't lower the price enough to introduce that kind of fare. I still think SK is way to expensive ex-Scandinavia in C. Just booked CPH-BOS in C for next week and SK wanted to have more than double of the AC ticket. BA was even lower but I like to stick to *A
Even if they do, saving 10 to 30 bucks in a business (or long-haul Plus) ticket is not really worth consideration. I could e.g. Live with C-light in a sense of C-cabin, no luggage, standard Go catering but even that concept won't lower the price enough to introduce that kind of fare. I still think SK is way to expensive ex-Scandinavia in C. Just booked CPH-BOS in C for next week and SK wanted to have more than double of the AC ticket. BA was even lower but I like to stick to *A
I totally agree with you. I'm there for the seat (with its ability to get work done/sleep/arrive ready to go), I could very much do without the catering. I choose BA as my other long-haul airline, but I also agree on the cost problem with SK ex-Scandi.