flying to hawaii, need visa?
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You can and probably 99.9% of the time without any problem or issues. Of course traveling around the US without a valid visa could be problematic. It's a risk but I can't say and don't know how significant.
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Here is a list of "acceptable ID" for TSA purposes. If by "California ID" you mean something on this list such as a driver's license, that's what you ought to use.
http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/acceptable-ids
As others note, there are lots of other concerns about traveling undocumented.
http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/acceptable-ids
As others note, there are lots of other concerns about traveling undocumented.
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International students need to have I-20 and passports handy w/ out-of-state travels
It's safe to assume the poster in question is an international student with visa involved.
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That's a very bad advice to international students traveling out-of-state to not bring all their legal IDs/documents. Not to mention when the unexpected things happen, international students will need their I-20 and passports to attend to whatever matters.
Assuming this poster had entered the States with legal and valid documentation earlier. As far as international students go, an expired visa does not affect their freedom for domestic travel. A visa is for entry purpose and only has to be valid upon POE. In this poster's case, if s/he plans to exit and re-enter US to finish school, s/he will need to get a new or extended visa upon return.
That's a very bad advice to international students traveling out-of-state to not bring all their legal IDs/documents. Not to mention when the unexpected things happen, international students will need their I-20 and passports to attend to whatever matters.
Assuming this poster had entered the States with legal and valid documentation earlier. As far as international students go, an expired visa does not affect their freedom for domestic travel. A visa is for entry purpose and only has to be valid upon POE. In this poster's case, if s/he plans to exit and re-enter US to finish school, s/he will need to get a new or extended visa upon return.
Last edited by lin821; Aug 13, 2014 at 2:37 pm Reason: change "OP" to "the poster in question" since this new question wasn't raised by OP
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Aloha from Hawai'i!!! Flying from the mainland U.S. to Hawai'i is only considered "international" in pricing, not politics. Flights departing from the other 49 states don't have to clear customs in the 50th! And vice versa. If your passport got you to the mainland it will also get you to Hawai'i and back! Aloha!
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It's safe to assume OP is an international student with visa involved.
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That's a very bad advice to international students traveling out-of-state to not bring all their legal IDs/documents. Not to mention when the unexpected things happen, international students will need their I-20 and passports to attend to whatever matters.
(underline mine)
That's a very bad advice to international students traveling out-of-state to not bring all their legal IDs/documents. Not to mention when the unexpected things happen, international students will need their I-20 and passports to attend to whatever matters.
If it's totally legal, then bring your passport. Even as an American I bring my passport for domestic travel. I don't present it, but I keep it on me.
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Don't forget it was you to advise the poster in question not to take the passport, which as I had pointed out up thread was a bad advice:
FWIW, there's a possibility for currently enrolled international students to have expired visas. The visa expiration date is not the deciding factor on whether an international student has a legitimate stay in the States or not.
Last edited by lin821; Aug 17, 2014 at 2:04 am Reason: Change "OP" to "the poster in question"
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Shall we tell him about the other exceptions? He may need his passport to enter Alabama, Georgia or South Carolina. Like Hawaii, they are often called states and considered domestic travel, but there is still lingering doubt about their full compliance with the accords of that 1865 Peace Treaty.
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He/she clearly wrote that to indicate that eh/she is here illegally at the moment. That's not the topic of conversation, but by and large, TSA and the airlines couldn't care less if a person is a citizen, green card holder, visa holder, is visa waiver, has expired visa or never had a visa. All are treated the same on domestic flights assuming they have a valid photo ID of some sort.
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Having an expired student visa by no means indicates any illegal stay. You obviously didn't completely finish reading my earlier post either:
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Yes, the poster did write that. But, no, the poster didn't give you enough info to indicate any illegal stay.
Having an expired student visa by no means indicates any illegal stay. You obviously didn't completely finish reading my earlier post either:
There's the other thread that touches on the purpose of visa (also see this & this from a differrent thread). I guess the expired visa did bring worries to the poster in question and that's why it's worth mentioning and discussing, especially when some folks don't understand what an expired student visa means.
Having an expired student visa by no means indicates any illegal stay. You obviously didn't completely finish reading my earlier post either:
There's the other thread that touches on the purpose of visa (also see this & this from a differrent thread). I guess the expired visa did bring worries to the poster in question and that's why it's worth mentioning and discussing, especially when some folks don't understand what an expired student visa means.
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Very, very wrong. Only Puerto Rico is within the main US immigration and customs jurisdiction. Everywhere else you're outside US customs zone. American Samoa remains its own immigration jurisdiction. US citizens can be deported.
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I really don't follow your logic about being illegal. When an American asked if the passport is needed when traveling to Hawaii, you think that American is being or doing something illegal as well?
For those who know better probably won't ask this line of visa/passport questions w/r/t visiting Hawaii. For those who do have to ask, it just means they are ill-informed. Being less knowledgeable doesn't make any person illegal.