The zipper security flaw... anyone solved it in a practical way?
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The zipper security flaw... anyone solved it in a practical way?
I imagine a good number of people know this, that luggage locks where zippers are concerned are pretty much useless. This is because most zippers can easily be bypassed by inserting the tip of a ballpoint pen into the center seam of a zipper and push hard, thereby causing zipper separation and an open bag. And sealing it is simply done by sliding the locked zipper pair all the way through to the other side, so the break-in would not be easily detected.
The only practical way I know to avoid this is by using hard shell case luggage that doesn't rely on zippers. But that type of luggage poses limitations (ease of access, no ability to shrink or collapse). And the B&R Torq line is not a good design (overpriced).
Some thoughts:
Perhaps a luggage cover/sheath would be a good idea. Something that covers over the luggage most of the way, holding it tightly, while still allowing some access to a front top end compartment and handle . The added hassle of having to pull off the sheath to get to the zipper would mean too much time involved... and a potential thief would look for easier luggage instead.
Aside from that, I've also heard about securing the locked zippers to a handle, which means a thief wouldn't be able to cover their tracks (zip the bag back up) and this would foil their ability to open/close the bag quickly.
Any other viable options, aside from not checking in your bag?
The only practical way I know to avoid this is by using hard shell case luggage that doesn't rely on zippers. But that type of luggage poses limitations (ease of access, no ability to shrink or collapse). And the B&R Torq line is not a good design (overpriced).
Some thoughts:
Perhaps a luggage cover/sheath would be a good idea. Something that covers over the luggage most of the way, holding it tightly, while still allowing some access to a front top end compartment and handle . The added hassle of having to pull off the sheath to get to the zipper would mean too much time involved... and a potential thief would look for easier luggage instead.
Aside from that, I've also heard about securing the locked zippers to a handle, which means a thief wouldn't be able to cover their tracks (zip the bag back up) and this would foil their ability to open/close the bag quickly.
Any other viable options, aside from not checking in your bag?
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I don't generally check bags and if I do, I don't put valuables in them. But I did find your post interesting since I've never given any thought to zipper security. I've always assumed that locks were useless since a thief could quickly cut the zipper seam with a knife, but your method is better at avoiding detection
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Take a look at this thread in the Travel Products forum:
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The only misstatement in the OP is that the security flaw has nothing to do with zippers and everything to do with locks.
Put simply, don't bother.
1. Don't put valuables in checked luggage.
2. Locks won't help if you do.
3. If anything, locks point thieves to bags containing valuables.
Security services, if they do wish to open a bag will cut the lock anyway.
Put simply, don't bother.
1. Don't put valuables in checked luggage.
2. Locks won't help if you do.
3. If anything, locks point thieves to bags containing valuables.
Security services, if they do wish to open a bag will cut the lock anyway.
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I lock the zipper pulls and secure them to the handle of the case. This prevents a baggage thief from resealing the zipper, making it a slightly less attractive target.
I've also got a couple of very old (> 50 years!) heavy duffle bags with metal zippers. You can't use the ballpoint pen/reseal trick on metal zippers.
It simply isn't always feasible to take everything of value as carry-on, particularly when you're talking about gear that can't be easily replaced, if at all, at your destination.
Example: the couple who arrived in Africa to hike Kilimanjaro. Their unlocked bag had contained well-broken-in hiking boots, trekking poles, one Goretex shell, batteries and OTC meds and toiletries, all of which were gone. The thieves even pulled the battery from their travel alarm.
The batteries were replaceable; a poor substitute for the hiking poles could be found, but the boots and the shell couldn't be replaced.
I've also got a couple of very old (> 50 years!) heavy duffle bags with metal zippers. You can't use the ballpoint pen/reseal trick on metal zippers.
It simply isn't always feasible to take everything of value as carry-on, particularly when you're talking about gear that can't be easily replaced, if at all, at your destination.
Example: the couple who arrived in Africa to hike Kilimanjaro. Their unlocked bag had contained well-broken-in hiking boots, trekking poles, one Goretex shell, batteries and OTC meds and toiletries, all of which were gone. The thieves even pulled the battery from their travel alarm.
The batteries were replaceable; a poor substitute for the hiking poles could be found, but the boots and the shell couldn't be replaced.
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I agree that valuables sometimes have to be checked (such as the poles). But, since the hiking boots were likely the single most essential element for a successful hiking trip, I probably would have packed them in carry-on or worn them on the plane.
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The point is that just because something works for you and makes sense for your personal style of travel, don't assume it works for everyone else. It's quite possible that these folks would have still had their gear if they'd locked their bags. I did and my gear arrived intact. Metal zips, a remarkably shabby bag and a lock must have been just enough deterrent for the baggage handlers to move on to a more easily accessed bag.
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Of course, if you're carrying a 35-50/lb pack, you aren't dancing and prancing up the mountainside, even if the trail is level and someone in running shoes or day hikers could.
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I was picturing normal hiking boots that could be worn on the plane instead of regular shoes. They might not be the ideal travel shoes but a bit of discomfort would be worth it to ensure they arrived. I agree that this wouldn't work very well if they are similar to large plastic ski-boots In this case, I guess there is no option but to check them and hope for the best. I guess we got a little off topic. A scruffy bag might attract less attention from would-be thieves...
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I was picturing normal hiking boots that could be worn on the plane instead of regular shoes. They might not be the ideal travel shoes but a bit of discomfort would be worth it to ensure they arrived. I agree that this wouldn't work very well if they are similar to large plastic ski-boots In this case, I guess there is no option but to check them and hope for the best. I guess we got a little off topic. A scruffy bag might attract less attention from would-be thieves...
Around the time we were all in Tanzania, shoes and thermal underwear were in great demand. The same friends that lost the boots for the climb (which they had to bail on before the summit because of the footwear problem) had a pair of really scruffy Tevas stolen out of their bag going back. They were soooo nasty, but they still had a lot of tread and miles of wear.
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Some luggage has a built-in TSA-approved lock that you put the zipper pulls in and it locks them in place. So, they'd still be able to get the zipper open, but then wouldn't be able to close it back up, as you noted with attaching the lock to the handle. Of course, you'd have to buy new luggage for this.
If you're traveling internationally, you might not have an option, depending on where you're going. Some countries participate in the TSA lock program, others don't.
If you're really worried, you can try shipping your luggage to your destination, if your hotel or other destination allows for it. I've heard of people doing that but have never tried myself. It isn't foolproof, but eliminates any airport shenanigans.
If you're traveling internationally, you might not have an option, depending on where you're going. Some countries participate in the TSA lock program, others don't.
If you're really worried, you can try shipping your luggage to your destination, if your hotel or other destination allows for it. I've heard of people doing that but have never tried myself. It isn't foolproof, but eliminates any airport shenanigans.
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I imagine a good number of people know this, that luggage locks where zippers are concerned are pretty much useless. This is because most zippers can easily be bypassed by inserting the tip of a ballpoint pen into the center seam of a zipper and push hard, thereby causing zipper separation and an open bag. And sealing it is simply done by sliding the locked zipper pair all the way through to the other side, so the break-in would not be easily detected.
The only practical way I know to avoid this is by using hard shell case luggage that doesn't rely on zippers. But that type of luggage poses limitations (ease of access, no ability to shrink or collapse). And the B&R Torq line is not a good design (overpriced).
Some thoughts:
Perhaps a luggage cover/sheath would be a good idea. Something that covers over the luggage most of the way, holding it tightly, while still allowing some access to a front top end compartment and handle . The added hassle of having to pull off the sheath to get to the zipper would mean too much time involved... and a potential thief would look for easier luggage instead.
Aside from that, I've also heard about securing the locked zippers to a handle, which means a thief wouldn't be able to cover their tracks (zip the bag back up) and this would foil their ability to open/close the bag quickly.
Any other viable options, aside from not checking in your bag?
The only practical way I know to avoid this is by using hard shell case luggage that doesn't rely on zippers. But that type of luggage poses limitations (ease of access, no ability to shrink or collapse). And the B&R Torq line is not a good design (overpriced).
Some thoughts:
Perhaps a luggage cover/sheath would be a good idea. Something that covers over the luggage most of the way, holding it tightly, while still allowing some access to a front top end compartment and handle . The added hassle of having to pull off the sheath to get to the zipper would mean too much time involved... and a potential thief would look for easier luggage instead.
Aside from that, I've also heard about securing the locked zippers to a handle, which means a thief wouldn't be able to cover their tracks (zip the bag back up) and this would foil their ability to open/close the bag quickly.
Any other viable options, aside from not checking in your bag?
What I have realized is the wear and tear from the people throwing your bag around behind the scenes and the machines that move the suitcases - these things just aren't gentle and hurt the suitcase a lot.
What my solution has been is to use a suitcase cover. It makes it harder for them to get in and steal your stuff if they only have a few minutes. It also protects your luggage a lot! The one for my Rimowa almost needs to be replaced it has been abused badly!
Lastly, I don't put anything I deem valuable in the checked bag. As I am a big guy, it would suck if they lost my bag or someone decided to take my clothes...but that is sort of why I also book my trips using a credit card with great insurance so if something does go missing or damaged, I can but a replacement right away.
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