Travel to/thru Turkey and SSSS
Jan 6, 2016, 7:02 am
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He didn't say. But today he posted another BP on AA SEA-ORD and it had SSSS as well. He said he also has it on his ORD-DOH BP. He said security at SEA took an extra 15 mins while they unpacked both his bags, went through everything, felt him up, did the explosives trace, and then he had to repack everything.
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Jan 12, 2016, 12:11 pm
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A friend of mine and his wife stopped a week an a half ago in IST for a day and a half as part of a *A RTW ticket on 016 stock. Neither have global entry or pre-check. Given the events in Turkey today, I would not be surprised if they get the dreaded SSSS for the next few flights / months.
They're flying domestically later this week so I'll report back on what happens. Both fit the demographics mentioned in this thread M/F 20s-30s
They're flying domestically later this week so I'll report back on what happens. Both fit the demographics mentioned in this thread M/F 20s-30s
Jan 12, 2016, 12:20 pm
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A friend of mine and his wife stopped a week an a half ago in IST for a day and a half as part of a *A RTW ticket on 016 stock. Neither have global entry or pre-check. Given the events in Turkey today, I would not be surprised if they get the dreaded SSSS for the next few flights / months.
They're flying domestically later this week so I'll report back on what happens. Both fit the demographics mentioned in this thread M/F 20s-30s
They're flying domestically later this week so I'll report back on what happens. Both fit the demographics mentioned in this thread M/F 20s-30s
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Jan 13, 2016, 8:30 am
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A related data point:
My wife (F/36/Canadian) and I (M/34/American) flew to/from BEY, via IST one way, on a 016 ticket using AC YYZ-IST, ME IST-BEY, LH BEY-FRA and AC FRA-YYZ. Both of us have Global Entry/Nexus. Neither of us ended up with any SSSS or X/O issues. As I understand, travelers to Lebanon were being hit with the same nonsense as Turkey, so I wonder if the assessments have varied. Another friend, M/33, traveled on his own less than a week later DCA-BEY via YYZ/IST and back via DXB and YYZ, and also didn't have an issue.
My wife (F/36/Canadian) and I (M/34/American) flew to/from BEY, via IST one way, on a 016 ticket using AC YYZ-IST, ME IST-BEY, LH BEY-FRA and AC FRA-YYZ. Both of us have Global Entry/Nexus. Neither of us ended up with any SSSS or X/O issues. As I understand, travelers to Lebanon were being hit with the same nonsense as Turkey, so I wonder if the assessments have varied. Another friend, M/33, traveled on his own less than a week later DCA-BEY via YYZ/IST and back via DXB and YYZ, and also didn't have an issue.
Jan 13, 2016, 9:03 am
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A related data point:
My wife (F/36/Canadian) and I (M/34/American) flew to/from BEY, via IST one way, on a 016 ticket using AC YYZ-IST, ME IST-BEY, LH BEY-FRA and AC FRA-YYZ. Both of us have Global Entry/Nexus. Neither of us ended up with any SSSS or X/O issues. As I understand, travelers to Lebanon were being hit with the same nonsense as Turkey, so I wonder if the assessments have varied. Another friend, M/33, traveled on his own less than a week later DCA-BEY via YYZ/IST and back via DXB and YYZ, and also didn't have an issue.
My wife (F/36/Canadian) and I (M/34/American) flew to/from BEY, via IST one way, on a 016 ticket using AC YYZ-IST, ME IST-BEY, LH BEY-FRA and AC FRA-YYZ. Both of us have Global Entry/Nexus. Neither of us ended up with any SSSS or X/O issues. As I understand, travelers to Lebanon were being hit with the same nonsense as Turkey, so I wonder if the assessments have varied. Another friend, M/33, traveled on his own less than a week later DCA-BEY via YYZ/IST and back via DXB and YYZ, and also didn't have an issue.
IST transit -- as opposed to stopovers -- hasn't really been as much of an issue as either BEY or IST stays.
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Mar 15, 2016, 3:44 pm
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In transit on a single ticketed PNR and traveling without a Turkish visa of any sort? <SSSS> is far from assured then. I've flown TK to/from India in recent years without <SSSS> hitting me on my domestic US flights thereafter.
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Mar 15, 2016, 9:52 pm
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Has anyone had any recent experience on this? I'm looking at buying a SFO-ATH through IST on TK in J with a 2 hour layover. I'm still debating if we should buy it on TK
Mar 16, 2016, 10:06 am
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Mar 17, 2016, 2:37 pm
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I connect from TLV to Europe once a month on TK. Never harassed by anyone on either end. Will let you know in July what happens when we go TLV-IST-SFO
Aug 7, 2016, 3:27 am
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I'm in the midst of flying ADD-IST-ORD on an award ticket and just got SSSS on my boarding pass after changing my seat with the *G lounge attendant in IST.
My first boarding pass for IST-ORD didn't have SSSS but after switching seats it did. And I only switched seats because I wanted a row of 2 seats to myself and someone *had* to choose my row to sit in the aisle instead of the other 6 rows with open aisle seats.
The nice lounge lady blocked the seat beside me after I switched but now I have to contend with SSSS. I hope it's not too bad and there are no lasting consequences for future domestic flights and PreCheck
My first boarding pass for IST-ORD didn't have SSSS but after switching seats it did. And I only switched seats because I wanted a row of 2 seats to myself and someone *had* to choose my row to sit in the aisle instead of the other 6 rows with open aisle seats.
The nice lounge lady blocked the seat beside me after I switched but now I have to contend with SSSS. I hope it's not too bad and there are no lasting consequences for future domestic flights and PreCheck
Aug 8, 2016, 1:19 am
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So the SSSS on my IST-ORD boarding pass made no difference in screening at IST. The contract security firm, Gozen, already essentially does secondary screenings on almost all passengers, searching you bags, swabbing your hands, waist, crotch and shoes. The SSSS on my boarding pass had no apparent consequences for my security experience.
That being said, the long queues for US-bound flights and ensuing security circus were such a hassle I'm not sure I'm eager to fly TK again, although the food and service in Business Class was great.
After arriving ORD, my onward boarding pass had PreCheck and no SSSS. So I think it was a one-time thing to get SSSS at IST, and at least there, it won't do much.
That being said, the long queues for US-bound flights and ensuing security circus were such a hassle I'm not sure I'm eager to fly TK again, although the food and service in Business Class was great.
After arriving ORD, my onward boarding pass had PreCheck and no SSSS. So I think it was a one-time thing to get SSSS at IST, and at least there, it won't do much.
Aug 8, 2016, 4:18 am
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Same or better than before: short international to international flight transits (X on tickets) at IST are very unlikely to be a source of this problem. It's the tickets that have Turkish airports as Os (origin/destination) that remain way more of an issue than Xs for Turkish airports.
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Aug 9, 2016, 2:01 pm
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Same or better than before: shot international to international flight transits (X on tickets) at IST are very unlikely to be a source of this problem. It's the tickets that have Turkish airports as Os (origin/destination) that remain way more of an issue than Xs for Turkish airports.
The profile that's more likely to attract attention is June 1 - USA-IST, Sept 10 IST-USA.