Saitek

This was buried on page 8 of another thread, and I thought it deserved its own thread. If your against the NoS youll just LOVE this!

http://www.ratchetup.com/eyes/2007/0...cale_mobi.html

mulieri

So much for the folks that say "if you don't like the security, find another way to travel." This technology can be applied at a roadside "checkpoint" anywhere, and you don't even have to get out of your car to be violated.

Rooo

Is this health hazard horror show already in use?

CitizenTerrorist

This will not stand up to judicial scrutiny if it is ever actually implemented.

Kyllo v US settled the question as to whether or not an imaging device capable of seeing through opaque material constituted a search as covered by the 4th amendment and there are dozens of Supreme Court cases in which probable cause is absolutely needed in order to search a vehicle.

The exception is the 100 mile border zone (in which 2/3 of America lives and works), but this technology or its implementation are near the bottom of my list of potential problems with that whole snafu.

scoow

Already happening on interstates: http://www.wsbtv.com/video/25201350/index.html

Discussed at the time in this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...terstates.html

MikeMpls

It is already rumored to have been deployed on the streets, and I believe EPIC has filed an FOIA request for specifics.


It was also used (stationary) at a truck stop near Atlanta recently.

gojirasan

I guess we have to all start wearing radiation badges now whenever we leave our homes. Welcome to the future. OTOH, can you imagine the fun that could be had with a truck like that? I'd like to park that thing on a busy city street with lots of pretty girls walking by. Finally the real equivalent of those x-ray glasses.

FriendlySkies

Great I feel so much safer, knowing people can't drive around with drugs

FetePerfection

I think I'll start investing in Travel Safety and Security stocks - by this time next year I ought to be wealthy beyond my wildest dreams with the continued installation of X-ray technology.

AmericanSecurityTheater

One thing that really bothers me about this, is that decision was largely based on the fact that the search, and equipment were not considered to be routine, or commonly available.

If AIT machines start showing up freaking everywhere (which is what it sure seems like), this argument suddenly becomes a lot less valid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States

CitizenTerrorist

True enough, I guess. But if the Supreme Court were to ever rule that was the case (or deny cert on a lower court ruling in the same vein), I learn to speak Hebrew or one of the European languages and emigrate, because at that point the war is officially lost.

AINITFUNNY

You know, PART of the reason some people will surrender to these humiliating, warrant-less, nudiescope and groping searches at airports, BY STRANGERS is precisely BECAUSE they don't expect to have to face the people searching them in a social situation or context.

When these "security measures" start showing up at your local courthouse, it is quite possible that the person peering at your nude body KNOWS YOU and WHERE YOU LIVE. You are much more vulnerable to gossip, rumors, and social fallout from what one of your neighbors saw when examining your nude body or feeling you up at the courthouse. In a local setting, There is no longer the "relative" protection of anonymity when it's your neighbors going through your purse, pockets and briefcase and seeing you nude. Your "fake boobs", little penis, missing nut, tattoos, sex change, colostomy, diaper, mastectomy, nipple or other ring then becomes an item of small town talk likely to affect your relationships.

sbagdon

Some comments over the years I've reard regarding this, will find references when time permits: not powerful enough to penetrate a house structure. only good in the back of trucks if there's canvas or even light wood. not good for metal structures. there are fixed shipping-center units that will penetrate shipping containers, yet I wouldn't want to be standing next to one when it went off. to see inside a metal truck must produce a frightening amount of radiation.

Boggie Dog

I'm sure TSA would tell you that the radiation is no more than you would receive from flying for 2 minutes at altitude.

Letitride3c

That truck was supposingly deployed in NY's Wall Street area not long ago (just don't recall which unit within Homeland Security was "piloting" it as part of a special event and/or anti-terrorism exercise drill to demonstrate the capabilities)

Sure hope whoever's operating that mobile unit is sitting behind a heavily shrouded wrap-around lead shield, I would hate to see all those waves bouncing around especially without the benefit of a dosimeter alert on such a massive scale scanning.

And, in a few years, we will have a new "first responder/homeland security health bill" at taxpayer's expense for all the TSA clerks exposed to high but "legalized" level of radiation. The good news/bad news are, by then, that national healthcare will be in ....