Spence1097

Pilot noted they will be at "Bingo Fuel" in 3-4 minutes per the Tampa Bay Times where I saw this. Apparently the airport had been closed so the Blue Angels could practice, flight left LAS an hour late meaning they wouldn't make it before the closure but the Pilot continued anyways. Strange and what happened to their reserves?

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busines...rgency/2238936

djp98374

The story hit the news tonight. Interesting to see east comes of this.

My initial information spears there is fault in 3 areas...

1. Fargo should know what flights are scheduled and when. Given the flight distance in travel they could easily see where this plane is located snd alter the blue angels training accordingly.

2. Vegas ATC should have known that Fargo was going to close so if there was a traffic volume delay they could have given Allegiant priority in taking off.

3. aAllegiant should have known this closure and altered it's flight plan to give them more buffer than 12 minutes yo land before the airport closed. Other option given the long notification they should have changed flight schedule where it is scheduled to land when the airport opens up. Once the plane lands it wouldn't be able yo take off.

Sant

Isn't that assuming this wasn't a scheduled temporary closure?

FAA Investigates After Allegiant Jetliner Nearly Runs Out of Fuel

djp98374

Here is the problem---.... happens.

fargo should know what the scheduled airlines are supposed to be landing at the airport.

from my understanding this wasn't a diverted flight but a plane destined for Fargo. the flight info would be known well in advance of this when flights are scheduled to take off and land.

Could allegiant not filled there schedule flight--sure. could Fargo FAA be clueless idiots---yes.

What I find amusing is an emergency happens the plane has to talk to regional FAA in Minneapolis before they can clear in Fargo.

What Im saying is it appears both sides of this made errors.

s0ssos

So why does anybody who uses this website fly Allegiant?

zerolife

The flight departed a hour late. The scheduled arrival time wouldn't have been a problem as the airport was still open but the flight never made it on time. Beside, I don't believe it's the air traffic controller's responsibility to verify that flights are arriving on schedule. The responsibility solely lies on the airline and the pilot.

PDXTom

Good question given their horrible on-time flight performance and difficult and often absent customer service when there are flight delays and cancellations.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Stats/...anceReports.do

And perhaps if that is not enough reason to hesitate:

From http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2015/07/30/allegiant-executives-were-flying-plane-that-ran-low-on-fuelhttp://

So what was the pre-designated diversion airport and why didn't they have an additional 45 minutes of fuel beyond that? Are the company execs, in this case who are also the pilots, pushing profit over safety?

FLgrr

I thought headed to DFW, United I think, did not have the fuel to circle with storms and had to divert. It happens now and then. At least you normally know weather in advance. Allegient was lazy, but it happens.

Here in Tampa, there seems to be an attack against them. Probably the pilots union fighting back. I have not heard much that has happened to them that does not happen elsewhere, or has at sometime with an airline focused on getting as much as it can out of tourists, maximizing profits and minimizing costs.

Jalinth

my understanding is that "bingo" fuel (military speak) means having enough fuel,to return to your departure point. So having enough fuel to comfortably return to LAS? This is well above any fuel emergency level.

DonCarpenter

Because in a lot of places they fly they're 1/3 the price of a major carrier.

Mrp Alert

Or the only airline to serve a particular route / city.

Big4Flyer

My most common route on 9/26/2015 LAS-IDA

G4: $37 ($27 if bought at airport). 1h 40min nonstop
DL: $505. 2h 52 min 1 connection (SLC)

That is why