MH's Future [Speculation]
Jul 24, 2014, 8:20 am
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You can see pictures of a lot of MH main courses for F and J on their website if you look for "chef on call." There's a huge PDF as the selections depend on the departure airport for the flights where this is offered. [It wasn't available exLAX at the end, not even for the exNRT continuing segment if the passenger originated in LAX, although MH staff didn't seem to be aware of this restriction.]
Jul 24, 2014, 10:19 am
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Really? MH A380 @ 2-2-2 > CX 77W @ 1-2-1? You're definitely in the minority.
With no cheese (on most routes) and choice of dessert on MH vs SQ, I think SQ serves more food than MH.
Whole lobsters on MH J? Rather curious as to what routes you have seen them on. I have never seen lobsters other than perhaps lobster salad as their starters in my last 50+ J flights with MH in the last 12 months.
Agree on the Satays. 2nd helpings plus they taste much juicier than SQ's.
With no cheese (on most routes) and choice of dessert on MH vs SQ, I think SQ serves more food than MH.
Whole lobsters on MH J? Rather curious as to what routes you have seen them on. I have never seen lobsters other than perhaps lobster salad as their starters in my last 50+ J flights with MH in the last 12 months.
Agree on the Satays. 2nd helpings plus they taste much juicier than SQ's.
They had lobster a couple of times I flew J from KUL-LHR and vice versa.
Jul 24, 2014, 11:00 am
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I know for those of us not affected directly by either MH370 or MH 17 life goes on, but who has the best satay or who does or does not serve lobster does seem insignificant in the grand scheme of things....
Jul 24, 2014, 1:00 pm
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I could care less about food and in flight service, the top priority is arriving safely at my destination.
In recent months MH has failed twice by that measure, so it doesn't matter what subsidies they get the loads will plummet until the public receives some assurances.
Not that I'd object if UA menu featured lobster, but I like knowing my pilots are vetted and the airline doesn't take routing risks
Jul 24, 2014, 1:14 pm
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Concur but from a different perspective.
I could care less about food and in flight service, the top priority is arriving safely at my destination.
In recent months MH has failed twice by that measure, so it doesn't matter what subsidies they get the loads will plummet until the public receives some assurances.
Not that I'd object if UA menu featured lobster, but I like knowing my pilots are vetted and the airline doesn't take routing risks
I could care less about food and in flight service, the top priority is arriving safely at my destination.
In recent months MH has failed twice by that measure, so it doesn't matter what subsidies they get the loads will plummet until the public receives some assurances.
Not that I'd object if UA menu featured lobster, but I like knowing my pilots are vetted and the airline doesn't take routing risks
Jul 24, 2014, 1:42 pm
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Concur but from a different perspective.
I could care less about food and in flight service, the top priority is arriving safely at my destination.
In recent months MH has failed twice by that measure, so it doesn't matter what subsidies they get the loads will plummet until the public receives some assurances.
Not that I'd object if UA menu featured lobster, but I like knowing my pilots are vetted and the airline doesn't take routing risks
I could care less about food and in flight service, the top priority is arriving safely at my destination.
In recent months MH has failed twice by that measure, so it doesn't matter what subsidies they get the loads will plummet until the public receives some assurances.
Not that I'd object if UA menu featured lobster, but I like knowing my pilots are vetted and the airline doesn't take routing risks
Jul 24, 2014, 2:13 pm
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Concur but from a different perspective.
I could care less about food and in flight service, the top priority is arriving safely at my destination.
In recent months MH has failed twice by that measure, so it doesn't matter what subsidies they get the loads will plummet until the public receives some assurances.
Not that I'd object if UA menu featured lobster, but I like knowing my pilots are vetted and the airline doesn't take routing risks
I could care less about food and in flight service, the top priority is arriving safely at my destination.
In recent months MH has failed twice by that measure, so it doesn't matter what subsidies they get the loads will plummet until the public receives some assurances.
Not that I'd object if UA menu featured lobster, but I like knowing my pilots are vetted and the airline doesn't take routing risks
How are UA pilots vetted? You mean like this one who was pulled off a flight cos he was drunk?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_411491.html
Jul 24, 2014, 2:23 pm
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Seeing that you're UA MP member, I doubt you'll be flying on MH anyway. And by the way, the flight was on an IATA approved route. Behind them was SQ. It could very easily have been them instead.
How are UA pilots vetted? You mean like this one who was pulled off a flight cos he was drunk?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_411491.html
How are UA pilots vetted? You mean like this one who was pulled off a flight cos he was drunk?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_411491.html
Jul 24, 2014, 10:15 pm
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I dont really care about inflight service, not at least when it comes to MH where it is terribly inconsistent. Lobster or not, satay or not, the discussion on their inflight product current standing does probably affect their future.
I think MH was just pure unlucky with MH17. As others have promptly pointed out, they were on an approved routing. SQ could have been the victim. SQ most recent loss of seperation incident at IAH could have easily turned ugly. SQ had a 777 off the runway in MUC and a 330 runway excursion in RGN not too long ago.
Like every organisation, there will be top performers and bottom performers, but all have passed the test. Its just the draw of the luck who is flying your plane that day.
As for whether MH will survive, it will but who knows if the govt will retain a majority stake.
I think MH was just pure unlucky with MH17. As others have promptly pointed out, they were on an approved routing. SQ could have been the victim. SQ most recent loss of seperation incident at IAH could have easily turned ugly. SQ had a 777 off the runway in MUC and a 330 runway excursion in RGN not too long ago.
Like every organisation, there will be top performers and bottom performers, but all have passed the test. Its just the draw of the luck who is flying your plane that day.
As for whether MH will survive, it will but who knows if the govt will retain a majority stake.
Jul 24, 2014, 10:49 pm
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Jul 25, 2014, 7:00 am
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Seeing that you're UA MP member, I doubt you'll be flying on MH anyway. And by the way, the flight was on an IATA approved route. Behind them was SQ. It could very easily have been them instead.
How are UA pilots vetted? You mean like this one who was pulled off a flight cos he was drunk?
How are UA pilots vetted? You mean like this one who was pulled off a flight cos he was drunk?
I don't know how UA pilots are vetted but it is pretty stringent and they get regularly recertified, etc. They are not perfect but they do not deliberately take their planes off the grid or down (Egyptair #990).
By all means continue to fly MH I am sure you will enjoy lower fares and more cabin space, at least as long as the government subsidizes.
Not tooting UA's horn, but it has gotten everyone to their destinations this year... eventually. The IRROPS handling does leave much to be desired, but they are not unique in this regard.
Jul 25, 2014, 10:20 am
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IATA approved but not recommend by US government. Maybe IATA and the other airlines will pay closer attention to other risks rather than just weather @:-)
I don't know how UA pilots are vetted but it is pretty stringent and they get regularly recertified, etc. They are not perfect but they do not deliberately take their planes off the grid or down (Egyptair #990).
By all means continue to fly MH I am sure you will enjoy lower fares and more cabin space, at least as long as the government subsidizes.
Not tooting UA's horn, but it has gotten everyone to their destinations this year... eventually. The IRROPS handling does leave much to be desired, but they are not unique in this regard.
I don't know how UA pilots are vetted but it is pretty stringent and they get regularly recertified, etc. They are not perfect but they do not deliberately take their planes off the grid or down (Egyptair #990).
By all means continue to fly MH I am sure you will enjoy lower fares and more cabin space, at least as long as the government subsidizes.
Not tooting UA's horn, but it has gotten everyone to their destinations this year... eventually. The IRROPS handling does leave much to be desired, but they are not unique in this regard.
Jul 25, 2014, 4:12 pm
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Jul 25, 2014, 5:00 pm
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Whole lobsters on MH J? Rather curious as to what routes you have seen them on. I have never seen lobsters other than perhaps lobster salad as their starters in my last 50+ J flights with MH in the last 12 months.
Agree on the Satays. 2nd helpings plus they taste much juicier than SQ's.
Agree on the Satays. 2nd helpings plus they taste much juicier than SQ's.
I knew someone who flew a few months later got the same thing.
Jul 25, 2014, 5:13 pm
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Concur but from a different perspective.
I could care less about food and in flight service, the top priority is arriving safely at my destination.
In recent months MH has failed twice by that measure, so it doesn't matter what subsidies they get the loads will plummet until the public receives some assurances.
Not that I'd object if UA menu featured lobster, but I like knowing my pilots are vetted and the airline doesn't take routing risks
I could care less about food and in flight service, the top priority is arriving safely at my destination.
In recent months MH has failed twice by that measure, so it doesn't matter what subsidies they get the loads will plummet until the public receives some assurances.
Not that I'd object if UA menu featured lobster, but I like knowing my pilots are vetted and the airline doesn't take routing risks
Thanks to the evolution of aviation regulation and aircraft design, flying is one of the safest form of transportation (supported statistically) and hence I never worry about safety.
So I worry about, food, IFE, lounge quality, etc...
I guess it is like Maslow's Heirarchy of needs (aviation wise) when one need is satisfied (safety, or the perception of) then other needs take its place (comforts, etc).
If MH17 pushed out 5 minutes later, we could be reading about SQ351 instead.