Melbourne-Phuket
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Melbourne-Phuket
I recently took advantage of the super cheap Malaysia Airlines one way business fares from Thailand to the UK for February next year. I want to position myself from Australia to Phuket in order to take this flight. Departure from Phuket is at 16:55 on a Monday with a 4hr connection in KUL and a 23:30 departure to LHR. I will be in Melbourne for only 6 days and time is of the essence as I need to maximise all my time down under.
I have therefore shortlisted 2 options to get to HKT in order of preference.
1) Leave MEL on the 20:35 Qantas flight to PER landing at 21:40. A one way business ticket will cost me 20K Avios points. Overnight at the Hyatt Regency Perth (employee comp rate). Leave on the first flight out at 06:40 Monday morning to SIN (SIA) arriving 11:25 with connection on Silk Air at 13:10 and arriving in HKT at 14:05. Economy class one way fare is AU$459. Total cost MEL-HKT 20K plus £10.50 plus AU$459 = approx £285.
2). Redeem Lifemiles for one business class ticket with Thai Airways Int'l for the midnight departure via BKK. Cost using both points and cash is 18K miles + US$417 (approx £330). Departure from MEL will be Monday at 00:30 and arriving into BKK at 05:40 with connection to HKT arriving at 09:55 same day.
There are some pros and cons to both options. Option 1 has the best timings flightwise leaving Australia. I still get a decent amount of sleep on the ground (in Perth) and it's a daytime flight to SIN. Timings are good for my onward connection from HKT back to the UK. I would prefer to have dinner in Melbourne with my folks on Sunday evening but leaving at 20:35 would mean I miss out on this and I would be eating in the air instead.
Option 2 allows me to have dinner on the ground before I head off to the airport for my late departure. However, Thai was supposed to introduce the A359 on this route and have delayed it. I have no idea when they will intoduce it and I am not really comfortable with redeeming miles for a sub-par business product on their other aircraft. I've done this flight in business before and found the 777 angled flat seat not conducive to a good night's sleep. The other negative is the 7hr layover at HKT. What is there to do in this time?
I'm leaning towards Option 1 as it allows me to get a good night's sleep but what would you do?
I have therefore shortlisted 2 options to get to HKT in order of preference.
1) Leave MEL on the 20:35 Qantas flight to PER landing at 21:40. A one way business ticket will cost me 20K Avios points. Overnight at the Hyatt Regency Perth (employee comp rate). Leave on the first flight out at 06:40 Monday morning to SIN (SIA) arriving 11:25 with connection on Silk Air at 13:10 and arriving in HKT at 14:05. Economy class one way fare is AU$459. Total cost MEL-HKT 20K plus £10.50 plus AU$459 = approx £285.
2). Redeem Lifemiles for one business class ticket with Thai Airways Int'l for the midnight departure via BKK. Cost using both points and cash is 18K miles + US$417 (approx £330). Departure from MEL will be Monday at 00:30 and arriving into BKK at 05:40 with connection to HKT arriving at 09:55 same day.
There are some pros and cons to both options. Option 1 has the best timings flightwise leaving Australia. I still get a decent amount of sleep on the ground (in Perth) and it's a daytime flight to SIN. Timings are good for my onward connection from HKT back to the UK. I would prefer to have dinner in Melbourne with my folks on Sunday evening but leaving at 20:35 would mean I miss out on this and I would be eating in the air instead.
Option 2 allows me to have dinner on the ground before I head off to the airport for my late departure. However, Thai was supposed to introduce the A359 on this route and have delayed it. I have no idea when they will intoduce it and I am not really comfortable with redeeming miles for a sub-par business product on their other aircraft. I've done this flight in business before and found the 777 angled flat seat not conducive to a good night's sleep. The other negative is the 7hr layover at HKT. What is there to do in this time?
I'm leaning towards Option 1 as it allows me to get a good night's sleep but what would you do?
#2
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Is there award availability?
JQ fly a B787 MEL-HKT direct http://www.jetstar.com/au/en/cheap-flights/phuket.
But flying JQ has a risk, as does having 2 or 3 flights MEL-XXX-XXX-HKT on different carriers
JQ fly a B787 MEL-HKT direct http://www.jetstar.com/au/en/cheap-flights/phuket.
But flying JQ has a risk, as does having 2 or 3 flights MEL-XXX-XXX-HKT on different carriers
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Award availability is there for both options and I would prefer to redeem with oneworld but QF flights to SIN/BKK do not suit my schedule. JQ has a flight leaving MEL at 3pm and getting into HKT after 8pm. That would mean overnighting in Phuket. Ideally I would like to leave MEL as late as possible. If there was a direct flight from MEL to BKK/HKT departing early morning it would fit my plans perfectly. Unfortunately there isn't.
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SQ via PER should be the most reliable and the QF MEL-PER flight has sleeper seats (short flight though). Just avoid LCC to HKT, a friend was stranded for 3 days in HKT while his LCC organized a flight out, >24 houyr delays seems to happen fairly often for some reason.
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Yes, definitely won't be considering LCCs. Perth is looking to be my preferred option, I should be able to get around 6hrs sleep, be up at 04:30am for my 06:40am flight to SIN and get into HKT with 2hrs 50mins to connect to my MH flight.
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You could get the 16:10 TG472/225 combo from Sydney in F/J on Lifemiles
The 1hr Mel>Syd flights can be found for less that AUD $100. Would save on hotels and get you a decent hard/soft product in F on the SYD>BKK leg
The 1hr Mel>Syd flights can be found for less that AUD $100. Would save on hotels and get you a decent hard/soft product in F on the SYD>BKK leg
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Thanks for that, I did have a look at departing from SYD and I saw that option too but it involves a very late arrival into HKT as well as having to spend a night there. I actually redeemed Lifemiles on TG from HKG-BKK-SYD (J/F) to get me to Australia and will use Avios points for internal QF flights.
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Award availability is there for both options and I would prefer to redeem with oneworld but QF flights to SIN/BKK do not suit my schedule. JQ has a flight leaving MEL at 3pm and getting into HKT after 8pm. That would mean overnighting in Phuket. Ideally I would like to leave MEL as late as possible. If there was a direct flight from MEL to BKK/HKT departing early morning it would fit my plans perfectly. Unfortunately there isn't.
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Thanks, I already looked at MH out of MEL, late midnight departure similar to TG but award availability using Avios is non-existent for that flight. In any case YQ is exorbitant if I want to redeem Avios points. What is putting me off the midnight departures to Asia from MEL is the lengthy layover at HKT. Option 2 via PER has minimal connection time in HKT.
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Just got back from a lengthy (in terms of miles and number of flights) trip to Australia and Cambodia. Flew to :30 TG flight out of Brisbane to BKK in biz. It was a new 787 with lie-flat seats, very easy to sleep. Curiously, they want to feed you. A lot. Full dinner service about an hour into the flight. They do give you the option to pass on it; just seems a bit odd to be serving dinner at 1:30am. Skip the dinner and you'll get some quality sleep. Keep in mind the air really is better on the 787 (might be similar on a 350), which helps.