Is Mileage Running just about Dead?
#46
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Dubai / NYC
Programs: EK-IO, UA-1K2MM, ETIHAD-GOLD, SPG-PLAT LIFETIME, JUMEIRAH SERIUS GOLD
Posts: 5,220
I find it hard to believe AA won't move to the same earning structure as DL & UA....its just a matter of time. Either they are very smart and putting it off a year just to see if they can grab up more customers angry at UA or DL, or more likely, they just have to much on their plate right now with the merger and as soon as they clear up the more important stuff, AA customers will get the exact same email those of us at UA and DL already have received. AA "might" be the best of the 3 but they just aint THAT generous
#47
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
I asked a high-revenue UA flyer this week if the prospect of 75,000 miles per ticket on a UA flight would stop him from leaving and he told me that wasn't even a consideration in light of all the issues he had with that carrier. He wasn't making the move to AA for the miles, as AA doesn't offer up to 75K per trip. I'd love to see AA's numbers as to how many flyers they are bringing in from competitors, let alone new corporate contracts (have seen a few posts from those based at SFO or working in Silicon Valley that have had contracts changed from UA to AA).
AA has the luxury to sit back and see how UA does come March 15. We'll all be watching.
#48
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: DTW
Programs: AA EXP, DL FO
Posts: 1,719
Not dead. Easier US MRing is now just coming closer to the difficulty or price/value level in the rest of the world, but it's still quite good. I turn my MRs into large vacations I would do anyways, but with destination unknown, and will hit top tier for under 10k this year. The benefits don't exceed 10k, but are still very worthwhile considering the travelling I get.
#49
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Castro, San Francisco, California
Programs: UA, DL, AA, Aegean Air, Cal Alumni (go Bears!)
Posts: 594
Deader than Blue Chip Stamps. (In the U.S. they were popular in the 60s, given at supermarkets. Then you could buy items at their shops with filled up stamp books)
My mother used to collect those like I used to collect miles.
My mother used to collect those like I used to collect miles.
#50
Join Date: May 2012
Location: DCA, lived MCI, SEA/PDX,BUF (born/raised)
Programs: Marriott (Silver/Gold), IHG, Carlson, Best Western, Choice( Gold), AS (MVP), WN, UA
Posts: 8,734
My two cents....
1. I think it would be wise for AA to stick with the miles as a way to differentiate itself. Sure they think they will attract some mileage junkies.
2. I think it could change who the status FFers are. More short haul flyers will gain status who before didnt because they pay a higher fare. Once you get status it appears it will be easier to maintain it While those long haul flyers who fly VC or XO on lower fares may lose out.
3. This will definitely hurt people like myself who may travel 2-3 times for work a year + 3-4 times leisure travel each year and get low status without having to spending requirement. Thus it will force customers to go the credit card route to maintain status. If I do 5 XC flights a year earning 5K per I could earn 25K miles--> status.
4. The big concern is how will this effect people who already have miles in their account and want to redeem them? will it be changed to points instead where 1 mile= 1 point or will their current miles get develaued?
1. I think it would be wise for AA to stick with the miles as a way to differentiate itself. Sure they think they will attract some mileage junkies.
2. I think it could change who the status FFers are. More short haul flyers will gain status who before didnt because they pay a higher fare. Once you get status it appears it will be easier to maintain it While those long haul flyers who fly VC or XO on lower fares may lose out.
3. This will definitely hurt people like myself who may travel 2-3 times for work a year + 3-4 times leisure travel each year and get low status without having to spending requirement. Thus it will force customers to go the credit card route to maintain status. If I do 5 XC flights a year earning 5K per I could earn 25K miles--> status.
4. The big concern is how will this effect people who already have miles in their account and want to redeem them? will it be changed to points instead where 1 mile= 1 point or will their current miles get develaued?
#51
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AC SE100K, AA EXP, SPG Plt, HH Dmnd
Posts: 1,507
It's extremely difficult for non us-based fliers to get much below that hurdle . Especially after recent devaluations, at least in AC, and also if one likes to fly J
#52
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QR GLD; Bonvoy LT TIT
Posts: 12,753
Assuming that you plan a few months in advance, AA fares from BKK to BOS, JFK, etc., are running around $1,500 RT. Five of them will be less than $8,000 and get you EXP.
#53
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: LHR / IAD
Programs: BA/AA/UA
Posts: 2,955
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ff-smisek.html
Check out the UA forum above.
June 2014 Comments Attributed to UA CEO Jeff Smisek
As quoted by Ben Levisohn in Barron's today:
"The second initiative is aimed at improving revenue via changes to revenue management techniques/policies by restructuring fares in its domestic and Latin network to drive a higher paid load factor in business/first class cabins and enhancing ancillary revenue opportunities by tailoring offers to customers and introducing more dynamic pricing."
Check out the UA forum above.
June 2014 Comments Attributed to UA CEO Jeff Smisek
As quoted by Ben Levisohn in Barron's today:
"The second initiative is aimed at improving revenue via changes to revenue management techniques/policies by restructuring fares in its domestic and Latin network to drive a higher paid load factor in business/first class cabins and enhancing ancillary revenue opportunities by tailoring offers to customers and introducing more dynamic pricing."