UA DEN-SGN $912.40 20,980 4.3CPM (SEA too)
Sep 10, 2014, 9:53 am
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UA DEN-SGN $912.40 20,980 4.3CPM (SEA too)
UA DEN-EWR-SGN (booking with DEN-EWR-HKG-SGN took fare up $200) Traveling 10/8-10/12. Routing through SFO is also available but not as solid of a CPM.
There are immediate turnarounds available but i can't stand traveling that far and not getting to explore a bit!
--Spoke with agent last night and was told to call in after the flight and MP would credit me the mileage not received due to "hidden city" (route doesn't include HKG but does land and change planes)
Booked a ticket for my friend to join me SEA-SFO-HKG-SGN RT at 900.40 for 17,032 which is 5.28 CPM. Def not the best CPM out of SEA but decent for a nice trip.
There are immediate turnarounds available but i can't stand traveling that far and not getting to explore a bit!
--Spoke with agent last night and was told to call in after the flight and MP would credit me the mileage not received due to "hidden city" (route doesn't include HKG but does land and change planes)
Booked a ticket for my friend to join me SEA-SFO-HKG-SGN RT at 900.40 for 17,032 which is 5.28 CPM. Def not the best CPM out of SEA but decent for a nice trip.
Last edited by KGDIII; Sep 10, 2014 at 10:37 am Reason: Forgot Airline
Sep 10, 2014, 10:22 am
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Also: X SAN this is sub $900.
Sep 10, 2014, 10:36 am
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The hidden piece is what united kept calling it. It was preventing me from selecting seats on two of the flights bc the system viewed EWR-SGN as one flight as was SGN-EWR.
This is a thread on it.. http://milepoint.com/forums/threads/...mileage.33389/
Sep 10, 2014, 12:18 pm
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Hidden city ticketing is a completely different term.
Sep 10, 2014, 4:34 pm
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OP is saying that the customer reps at the airline are calling it 'hidden'. That is different from the FT term. It isn't a 'hidden city' as per the FT lexicon but he is saying the agents used that term to describe why he couldn't select seats for the flight/flights because their system sees it as a direct flight even though it lands and would need two separate reservations for seating.
Sep 10, 2014, 6:36 pm
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Sep 10, 2014, 7:55 pm
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DEN-SGN $912.40 20,980 4.3CPM (SEA too)
Not to dampen your excitement but sub 900 fares are a norm to SGN. I just booked a $746 PHX-ORD-HKG-SGN-HKG-EWR-PHX for Oct 3 - OCt 7
Sep 11, 2014, 8:54 am
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The rep is wrong, and no it is not a FT term or slang - read the COC of any airline (in this case UA)...it's their term not ours.
Sep 11, 2014, 8:12 pm
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OP is saying that the customer reps at the airline are calling it 'hidden'. That is different from the FT term. It isn't a 'hidden city' as per the FT lexicon but he is saying the agents used that term to describe why he couldn't select seats for the flight/flights because their system sees it as a direct flight even though it lands and would need two separate reservations for seating.
Simply put, this is not hidden city
Sep 11, 2014, 11:45 pm
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Sep 12, 2014, 2:07 am
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As everyone else has already rightly called out - this is not a hidden city. It is simply a through/direct flight from EWR-HKG-SGN.
The issue is the OP is wrong about getting credit. UA will not credit for EWR-HKG and HKG-SGN separately if it is booked as a through flight. Unfortunately anyone claiming ORC (original routing credit) for this will be rightfully denied and should not expect extra miles.
The difference amounts to 104 miles (8886 EWR-SGN vs 8990 EWR-HKG-SGN). This should not be used in calculations for CPM and instead the direct EWR-SGN at 8886 should be.
-RM
The issue is the OP is wrong about getting credit. UA will not credit for EWR-HKG and HKG-SGN separately if it is booked as a through flight. Unfortunately anyone claiming ORC (original routing credit) for this will be rightfully denied and should not expect extra miles.
The difference amounts to 104 miles (8886 EWR-SGN vs 8990 EWR-HKG-SGN). This should not be used in calculations for CPM and instead the direct EWR-SGN at 8886 should be.
-RM