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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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Sep 19, 2014, 5:45 pm

#2701

BCH

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 1,318

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNMAZ

OneWorld from LAS/TUS to AMS in January around $2300, LAS/TUS to a few airports in Italy in January around $2300. OneWorld has finally started some decent prices with all the great pricing that Skyteam has done recently.

I see some rumblings on the interwebs that OneWorld has a much larger fare war happening to certain European destinations with sub-$2K fare. Anyone see those?

Sep 19, 2014, 5:52 pm

#2702

rkaradi

Join Date: Jul 2007

Location: SFO

Programs: United 1kMM; AA EX Plat, Hilton Diamond and SPG Plat

Posts: 2,014

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCH

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNMAZ

OneWorld from LAS/TUS to AMS in January around $2300, LAS/TUS to a few airports in Italy in January around $2300. OneWorld has finally started some decent prices with all the great pricing that Skyteam has done recently.

I see some rumblings on the interwebs that OneWorld has a much larger fare war happening to certain European destinations with sub-$2K fare. Anyone see those?

Care to elaborate any for 2014?

Sep 19, 2014, 7:38 pm

#2703

BCH

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 1,318

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkaradi

Care to elaborate any for 2014?

I actually haven't found those myself, but apparently they're oneworld fares to numerous European destinations.

I do see BA and OpenSkies fares to Barcelona, Madrid, and Paris that are in that range during Thanksgiving week. But I think those have been there for a while.

Sep 19, 2014, 9:46 pm

#2704

frankmu

Join Date: Feb 2010

Location: PDX (wish I was in HNL)

Programs: Platinum

Posts: 1,687

EUG (Eugene, Oregon) -LIN (Milan, Italy) on AA/BA, multiple winter dates for ~$2000.

Where's *Alliance/UA?

Sep 19, 2014, 11:17 pm

#2705

stephem

Join Date: Nov 2004

Location: Manhattan Beach, California

Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever

Posts: 6,367

Yup, I am finding a number of west coast cities: Tried SEA, EUG, PDX, YKM, GEG. Strange, the smaller cities are less (something like $1015++ to MIL or $2060 A/I), a few hundred more for PDX/SEA.

to NAP was the same, to ROM, MLA or CDG was a bit more. Only found Italy and France, no Spain or Germany airports.

I am just looking at AA, was trying to find something that would route thru LAX so I can use SWUs on LAX-LHR AA metal. This fare must have some routing rule that prevents that, I'm only seeing thru SEA on BA metal. $2k for confirmed upgrade to F would work for me...

Edited to add: looks like the ex-EUG flights can easily be routed through LAX on onto AA's 77W flight to LHR.

Sep 20, 2014, 12:00 am

#2706

ferriswren

Join Date: May 2007

Location: RNO

Programs: AA EXP

Posts: 100

RNO-CDG in C for $2022

3/28/15 US 564/626/786
4/8/15 AY5777(AA 49)/AA 1075

Good price since this is our school spring break period.

I bought two tickets for this itinerary @ $4044 on Orbitz. My account at AA.com shows a price of $4356. First time I’ve seen a discrepancy like this. Normal? Or worth a phone call to AA?

Last edited by ferriswren; Sep 20, 2014 at 12:07 am

Sep 20, 2014, 5:50 am

#2707

su9062

Join Date: Feb 2014

Posts: 314

You guys aren't using this ?

https://www.britishairways.com/en-us...ember-benefits

Outbound - Saturday 15 November 2014
09:05
15 Nov 14:55
15 Nov Seattle-Tacoma International (WA) Dallas Ft Worth (TX) (Dallas) BA2380
American Airlines Business
16:50
15 Nov 07:25
16 Nov Dallas Ft Worth (TX) (Dallas) Heathrow (London) BA0192
British Airways Club World
09:20
16 Nov 12:20
16 Nov Heathrow (London) Linate (Milan) BA0576
British Airways Club Europe

Inbound - Sunday 07 December 2014
07:35
07 Dec 08:40
07 Dec Linate (Milan) Heathrow (London) BA0561
British Airways Club Europe
10:15
07 Dec 14:45
07 Dec Heathrow (London) Dallas Ft Worth (TX) (Dallas) BA1504
American Airlines Business
16:30
07 Dec 18:50
07 Dec Dallas Ft Worth (TX) (Dallas) Seattle-Tacoma International (WA) BA2400
American Airlines Business

Price
$1,794.67 1 passenger

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Sep 20, 2014, 7:57 am

#2708

MGW2000

Join Date: Sep 2004

Location: NYC

Programs: AA Explat / UA Silver

Posts: 600

Seems like it's all West Coast? Tried a few Eastern cities.

Sep 20, 2014, 11:25 am

#2709

BigKing

Join Date: Jul 2000

Location: Bainbridge Island WA USA

Posts: 508

Seattle-Amsterdam with the AARP Discount - $1,867.18

Flight number BA0048
From Seattle-Tacoma International (WA)
To Heathrow (London) Terminal 5
Depart 28 Oct 2014 19:00
Arrive 29 Oct 2014 11:30
Cabin Club World
Operated by British Airways
Booking status Confirmed

Flight number BA0446
From Heathrow (London) Terminal 5
To Amsterdam
Depart 29 Oct 2014 14:25
Arrive 29 Oct 2014 16:40
Cabin Club Europe
Operated by British Airways
Booking status Confirmed

Flight number BA0429
From Amsterdam
To Heathrow (London) Terminal 5
Depart 2 Nov 2014 10:35
Arrive 2 Nov 2014 11:00
Cabin Club Europe
Operated by British Airways
Booking status Confirmed

Flight number BA0049
From Heathrow (London) Terminal 5
To Seattle-Tacoma International (WA)
Depart 2 Nov 2014 14:15
Arrive 2 Nov 2014 16:05
Cabin Club World
Operated by British Airways
Booking status Confirmed

Sep 20, 2014, 11:43 am

#2710

EKinBigD

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Join Date: Aug 2014

Programs: Emirates

Posts: 104

Check your flight details

Outbound - Tuesday 28 October 2014
19:00
28 Oct 11:30
29 Oct Seattle-Tacoma International (WA) Heathrow (London) BA0048
British Airways Club World
12:50
29 Oct 15:45
29 Oct Heathrow (London) Linate (Milan) BA0574
British Airways Club Europe

Inbound - Sunday 02 November 2014
11:20
02 Nov 12:20
02 Nov Malpensa (Milan) Heathrow (London) BA0573
British Airways Club Europe
14:15
02 Nov 16:05
02 Nov Heathrow (London) Seattle-Tacoma International (WA) BA0049
British Airways Club World

Price

$1,779.76 1 passenger

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Sep 20, 2014, 6:26 pm

#2711

stephem

Join Date: Nov 2004

Location: Manhattan Beach, California

Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever

Posts: 6,367

Wow- just looked around and see these are good thru end of schedule.

I found an awesome summer vacation with nice ex-SEA BA flights in business class for around $2k per ticket.

The AARP discount only works for departures up until 3/31 and I guess the Chase discount doesn't work for departures in 2015.

But at least I got child discounts for each of my kids, which shaved off about $290 per ticket. 2 Adults + 3 kids is coming out to an average of $1928 per ticket. BTW, I ran an ITA search w/ economy, and for same dates and cities, it's only $100 less per ticket in economy!

Also found the fares are more widespread than I had thought. Seeing them filed for BOI, RNO, SJC, PSP, LAS, SBA, OAK among others

Last edited by stephem; Sep 21, 2014 at 12:07 am

Sep 20, 2014, 6:32 pm

#2712

stephem

Join Date: Nov 2004

Location: Manhattan Beach, California

Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever

Posts: 6,367

SkyTeam is kinda/sorta matching:

SEA-BCN, SEA-MAD are showing up at just over $2k (a hair more than the OW fares). Thru EOS, so PacNWers, it's a good time to book a Europe vacation for next summer!

Edited to add: The Skyteam fares are to many places in Spain, also Mallorca, Ibiza and Canary Islands.

Last edited by stephem; Sep 20, 2014 at 6:47 pm

Sep 21, 2014, 2:49 am

#2713

dabee69

Join Date: Jan 2006

Location: RIX

Programs: SAS Lifetime Gold, HHonors Lifetime Diamond, TK*G Elite+, airBaltic VIP, Sixt Plat, Hertz Gold

Posts: 1,079

USA from SCANDINAVIA,FINLAND,ESTONIA,LATVIA,LITHUANIA

BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION NONREF FARES P
Between AREA 1 and AREA 2 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES

Most US gateways with wide choice of carriers UA,AC,LH,OS,SN.

Comes out to:
~1400-1550 EUR east coast
~1800 EUR RT for the west SFO/LAX/LAS/DEN/PHX/....
~2150 EUR RT for the Hawaii which is something quite unique

I wonder how long UA P class will give 150% on TK M&S and 200% on SK EuroBonus.

Creative routes are available. Similar fares are also available on Oneworld and Skyteam carriers.

Code:

 PERMITTED 01JUL 14 THROUGH 31AUG 14 OR 22NOV 14 THROUGH
  29NOV 14 OR 21DEC 14 THROUGH 10JAN 15 OR 28MAR 15 THROUGH
  11APR 15 OR 01JUL 15 THROUGH 31AUG 15 OR 21NOV 15 THROUGH
  28NOV 15 OR 24DEC 15 THROUGH 31DEC 15 OR 19MAR 16 THROUGH
  03APR 16 OR 01JUL 16 THROUGH 31AUG 16 OR 19NOV 16 THROUGH
  26NOV 16 OR 24DEC 16 THROUGH 31DEC 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

Sep 21, 2014, 5:18 am

#2714

zoombee

Join Date: Mar 2008

Location: London (~75% of the year).

Programs: AA PPro

Posts: 477

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankmu

EUG (Eugene, Oregon) -LIN (Milan, Italy) on AA/BA, multiple winter dates for ~$2000.

For those in the SF area, it prices out the same from Oakland. E.g. OAK-PHX-LHR-LIN-LHR-PHX-OAK on Nov 15 to Dec 7th. Does mean you must fly an extra segment but decent fares from SF are rare on OW so it may entice a few.