Platinum Availability Guarantee denied - any recourse?
#31
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University of Alabama plays football at a stadium in Birmingham. Do hotels there or in Tuscaloosa sell out on game weekends?
In the case of Tuscaloosa, I've seen Bessmer/Hoover hotels invoke the pricing as well as properties in Meridian, MS.
#32
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Another issue to consider...
Even when the PG is honored, it is often at an unreasonable price. I actually need to be in both Altoona, PA and Bloomington, IN on football weekends within the next few weeks. For the Altoona weekend, a Plat Override was, but is no longer available. It was well over $500/night with a two night minimum for a CY. The Bloomington TPS has an override available for over $599/night.
In each case, the hotel is charging that ridiculous rate that shows on the back of the door, which they've set at a rate no sane person would pay. Thank goodness for friends and family in those cities.
Even when the PG is honored, it is often at an unreasonable price. I actually need to be in both Altoona, PA and Bloomington, IN on football weekends within the next few weeks. For the Altoona weekend, a Plat Override was, but is no longer available. It was well over $500/night with a two night minimum for a CY. The Bloomington TPS has an override available for over $599/night.
In each case, the hotel is charging that ridiculous rate that shows on the back of the door, which they've set at a rate no sane person would pay. Thank goodness for friends and family in those cities.
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(OK, I realize this would have to happen in franchisee contracts, but still...)
#34
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That's when Marriott needs to step up and say "Sorry, Alabama vs. the Charleston Southern Buccaneers is not, in fact, the Super Bowl."
All kidding aside, I'm on the losing end of this because the LSU game is typically one of the bigger home games in our road cities. In some of the towns I've given up on even getting a room there because of the issues I've run into.
I'll stay in adjacent cities and use the Marriott's there or use AirBNB if I want to be in the middle of the action.
Auburn - Montgomery
Tuscaloosa - Meridian
Athens - NE Atlanta
Gainesville - JAX/St. Aug
Starkville - Columbus
Oxford - Memphis
College Station - Houston
The others are large enough where the hotels have frequent events year round that bring their numbers up...
I've had hotels (Marriott and other brands) outright cancel reservations without notice because I had a lower rate, change rate rules on me without notice...thinking I wouldn't recognize, and not honor requests. Partially because of the rate I may have obtained (I book 50 weeks out when I can) and partially because of the City/Zip on my account.
#35
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I would print out the page on the website that doesn't have a disclaimer and file a complaint to the BBB saying they are not honoring their advertising. I would also file a complaint to FTC.
Marriott will be forced to respond to both complaints and imho I have great luck making businesses doing the right thing by using these two to complaint too. Really hard to see why they would not say ok we have a room, but it 2x the conf rate do you still want it? Then they could walk someone and it would be revenue neutral. Most likely with conf so far away they would have a "natural" cancellation too and never need to walk anyone.
Marriott will be forced to respond to both complaints and imho I have great luck making businesses doing the right thing by using these two to complaint too. Really hard to see why they would not say ok we have a room, but it 2x the conf rate do you still want it? Then they could walk someone and it would be revenue neutral. Most likely with conf so far away they would have a "natural" cancellation too and never need to walk anyone.
#36
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That's what I'm wondering too. The only college I can think of is Univ of Pittsburgh at Johnstown but I'm not sure it even has a football team. There would also be a bunch of small liberal arts colleges in the area, but AFAIK none of them are big football places.
Maybe University of Maryland? Some people commute from PA to MD for work.
Maybe University of Maryland? Some people commute from PA to MD for work.
Altoona hotels have always been booked solid for PSU game days, with two minimum stays required. Where do you think all those people stay?
#37
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Another issue to consider...
Even when the PG is honored, it is often at an unreasonable price. I actually need to be in both Altoona, PA and Bloomington, IN on football weekends within the next few weeks. For the Altoona weekend, a Plat Override was, but is no longer available. It was well over $500/night with a two night minimum for a CY. The Bloomington TPS has an override available for over $599/night.
In each case, the hotel is charging that ridiculous rate that shows on the back of the door, which they've set at a rate no sane person would pay. Thank goodness for friends and family in those cities.
Even when the PG is honored, it is often at an unreasonable price. I actually need to be in both Altoona, PA and Bloomington, IN on football weekends within the next few weeks. For the Altoona weekend, a Plat Override was, but is no longer available. It was well over $500/night with a two night minimum for a CY. The Bloomington TPS has an override available for over $599/night.
In each case, the hotel is charging that ridiculous rate that shows on the back of the door, which they've set at a rate no sane person would pay. Thank goodness for friends and family in those cities.
The experiences people are relating here about how hard it is to take advantage of this benefit makes me seriously wonder why Marriott offers it in the first place. Isn't there some general principle in psychology that says you'll like someone a lot less if at first they liked you and then then changed to disliking you as compared to how you feel about someone who never liked you to begin with? That's kinda how I feel. Most Plat members are probably like me in that the see this benefit and file it away in the back of their heads as a handy "insurance" policy - in fact, that's exactly how Marriott plugs it. But if 80 or 90% of the time when they wind up in a situation where they need it, Marriott finds some reason to refuse it, they're probably going to be a lot more pissed than if the benefit had never been offered in the first place. The only way I can see this benefit as being a "net win" for Marriott would be if most Plats never even try to use it - in that case, maybe the advertising value for them claiming they have this benefit might outweigh the negatives of potentially losing the high-volume customers who get angry when they realize it's mostly a sham.
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We have never been denied a platinum override rate.
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In most of these little SEC towns, if there's no football game, then there's likely no need for the override. Guessing it's not terribly hard to get a room in Tuscaloosa on a random Tuesday night.
I've had hotels (Marriott and other brands) outright cancel reservations without notice because I had a lower rate, change rate rules on me without notice...thinking I wouldn't recognize, and not honor requests. Partially because of the rate I may have obtained (I book 50 weeks out when I can) and partially because of the City/Zip on my account.
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Huh? Beaver Stadium is a little over a half hour from the Altoona CY, straight up I-99. UPJ is almost an hour away and mostly not on highway. University of MD is almost three hours away.
Altoona hotels have always been booked solid for PSU game days, with two minimum stays required. Where do you think all those people stay?
Altoona hotels have always been booked solid for PSU game days, with two minimum stays required. Where do you think all those people stay?
#42
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Wow - here's an interesting plot twist. I emailed the representative from the Woodlands Waterway Marriott a link to this thread so he could see the interest their denial of my platinum availability guarantee had generated. He sent me a reply reiterating that they would not honor the guarantee, told me this was the most negative interaction he'd ever had with a Platinum member, *and* (this is the interesting part) he cc'ed the Dean of my college (I'm a professor) on the email! He actually went to the trouble of looking up her email to do this. I guess (?) it was meant to intimidate me into not discussing this situation openly with other travelers here? Bizarre, and ultra-unprofessional IMHO. More material to put in my complaint to the BBB and Marriott HQ.
Edit to update. Re-reading his email, I just noticed that the representative from the hotel is actually the GM. Unbelievable someone that high up would behave this way.
Edit to update. Re-reading his email, I just noticed that the representative from the hotel is actually the GM. Unbelievable someone that high up would behave this way.
#43
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Wow - here's an interesting plot twist. I emailed the representative from the Woodlands Waterway Marriott a link to this thread so he could see the interest their denial of my platinum availability guarantee had generated. He sent me a reply reiterating that they would not honor the guarantee, told me this was the most negative interaction he'd ever had with a Platinum member, *and* (this is the interesting part) he cc'ed the Dean of my college (I'm a professor) on the email! He actually went to the trouble of looking up her email to do this. I guess (?) it was meant to intimidate me into not discussing this situation openly with other travelers here? Bizarre, and ultra-unprofessional IMHO. More material to put in my complaint to the BBB and Marriott HQ.
Edit to update. Re-reading his email, I just noticed that the representative from the hotel is actually the GM. Unbelievable someone that high up would behave this way.
Edit to update. Re-reading his email, I just noticed that the representative from the hotel is actually the GM. Unbelievable someone that high up would behave this way.
#44
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Thanks for letting us know which property is handling this so poorly. From my perspective,they created this issue for themselves by opening the room block early. It is now up to them to make the correction. I cannot understand why they are resisting,especially since you have stated that you are ok with a higher rate.
#45
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Platinum Availability Guarantee denied - any recourse?
I stay at this property a few times a year as do about 15 other colleagues of mine as a major client of ours has their office in the complex adjacent to this property.
We'll be staying elsewhere from now on if that's how they want to handle interaction with elite members.
We'll be staying elsewhere from now on if that's how they want to handle interaction with elite members.