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Old Oct 25, 2013, 7:07 pm
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UPDATE 01/17/15

BeFrugal: 1.5%
Big Crumbs: 0.9%
TopCashBack: 1.5%


For other cash back or airline portals, check here: http://www.cashbackmonitor.com/Cashb...erican+express

Public Service Announcement: Do NOT use fee-free codes if you want portal cashback / miles. CB/Miles will post and then be clawed back.

FAQ

Will it post as a cash advance (CA)?

Citi - Yes.

Cards from Chase, BoA, FIA, Barclay, AMEX, CapitalOne, US Bank, Discover, HSBC, etc., have posted as purchase. PNC Visa Cashbuilder - posts as purchase but does not earn CC rewards

Note: Some issuers (Discover, US Bank, etc.) will decline the authorization if it exceeds your CA limit. This does NOT mean it will post as CA. It simply means you need to lower the purchase amount below your CA limit for authorization, but it ultimately posts as a purchase.

How do I set PIN on AMEX Gift Cards and use as debit to load Bluebird, buy MOs, etc.
You cannot set PIN or use them as debit to load Bluebird, buy MOs, etc. You can only use them as credit where AMEX is accepted.

How do I cash out AMEX Gift Cards?
Use manufactured spend techniques (load RB, buy Visa/MC GCs, VRs, AP, AFT, etc.) or normal spend where AMEX is accepted.

Why buy AMEX Gift Cards then?
To reduce the cost of manufactured spend, to mask your manufactured spend (i.e unusual high spend at Target or CVS), earn additional cash back on spend, or meet minimum spend targets faster.

Next day shipping that isn't?
The next day shipping is from when they ship the cards to UPS, which can be as long as 10 days from the order submission if you order personalized cards (more recently this has been under a week). For next day shipping, you are notified late night (once your card finishes processing, see above) and the package arrive that same morning before 10:30AM in your area.

What is with the charge disappearing from my credit card?
Once the order is placed you will see a pending charge on your CC account. Quite often once the card ships this pending is removed but does not show as a charge. Don't panic (or celebrate) it will show up as a charge within a day or so.

Personalized GCs?
Either Biz or Personal GCs can be personalized with your name. This helps when shaky cashiers who demand to see your card are prevalent. These take approximately 4 biz days to arrive compared to the non personalized which arrives as quickly as the next day.

UPS Tracking?
If you logged in to your AMEX account when placing the order you can get tracking info by logging in to your AMEX account and clicking on cards > gift cards > order history > order details. Unfortunately tracking information may not appear until well after your order has shipped so it's best to sign up for UPS My Choice to get faster tracking info and reroute your package if needed. Since UPS may drop your package off at the door if you're not home, it will be useful to know when your package will arrive.

The portal terms indicate that coupon codes will invalidate cash back. Is this true?
Yes (as of July 2014)

What are the purchase limits? (Updated Dec 2014)
10K personal every 14 days
100K business every 14 days

Do declined orders count toward the purchase limits?
YMMV

Do fees and shipping count toward the purchase limits?
No

Why was my purchase declined by AMEX?
There are several possibilities:
- Your billing address does not match 100% with what the credit card company has on file. This could be anything from apt/suite/condo # on the wrong line to zip code requiring 9 digits instead of 5. If your first purchase does not go through, call your bank or login to your acct to verify that this matches what you used.
- You have gone over the $10k every 14 day limit on personal gift card purchase.
- Even if you are sure the first two are correct as you have ordered before on that card and it's been more than 14 days, you might still get declined. No one has any idea why.
- You placed a business order and you don't really have a business (at some point AMEX does a background check for a valid business) or you have exceeded the 14 day limit for business orders.

My order was declined but my credit card still shows a pending authorization. How long until this falls off and my credit line is freed up?
I typically takes 1 week for the pending authorization to fall off after a declined order.

Can I order from the business side using a personal card? Or does it need to be a business card?
You can use whatever credit card you want to pay for business or personal orders. About the only restriction is you can't use an AMEX GC to buy another AMEX GC.

How long will it take the portal to track my order and confirm the pending cash back or points?
For non-Cartera portals (TCB, BC, Befrugal, etc) your order will usually track within a day or two.
For Cartera portals (Barclay Reward Boost, Lucky Rewards, USAA, Alaska, Delta) it will take 3-4 weeks to track.

My orders are not tracking. How can I maximize the chances the portal will track my order properly?
Use a browser you do not normally use (Chrome, Firefox, Opera), reset all browser settings to defaults, clear all browser cookies, disable all browser add-ons, and close/re-start your browser before navigating to the portal and placing your order. Do NOT use promotional coupon codes. The vast majority of tracking issues result from use of coupon codes, a bad browser cookie, improperly configured browser settings, or add-ons that interfere with cookie tracking.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 10:13 pm
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Cash back is not offered on fee-free promotional codes.
Is that new verbiage? I used EMSVCA as recently as 11/18 and got cash back on Big Crumbs.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 6:48 am
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Originally Posted by Frenchie Flyer
Cash back is not offered on fee-free promotional codes.
Is that new verbiage? I used EMSVCA as recently as 11/18 and got cash back on Big Crumbs.
No, not new.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 7:26 am
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The purchase will not go through when trying to purchase with my amex card.

Is it OK to call amex about this?
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 7:31 am
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The purchase will not go through when trying to purchase with my amex card.

Is it OK to call amex about this?
Details? What happens when you try to purchase? Where's the error occuring?
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 7:33 am
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Originally Posted by brewernq
The purchase will not go through when trying to purchase with my amex card.

Is it OK to call amex about this?
What do you get as an error? Are you submitting the order, everything looks fine, then it comes back as cancelled? Or when you try to pay with your Amex it cancels right there? I had an issue placing an order a couple of times and realized they had an address that listed my zip code with all 9 numbers together, which I think was messing things up. Even though it would show up as pending on my credit cards, Amex GC wouldn't process it. Calling Amex GC customer service is horrible, some of the worst i've ever encountered. They are empowered to do nothing and they can't help with anything...they just sit and quote the same BS over and over...even the managers do.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 7:55 am
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After I hit submit order it immediately comes back with:
We're sorry, but we are unable to process your payment at this time. Please verify that the payment information is correct and resubmit your order. If you see this message again, please contact the Credit Card Company or consider another form of payment. After three attempts, you will need to restart your order.

And the following blanks are lit up red:
Card Number:
Expiration Date:
Security Code:
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by brewernq
After I hit submit order it immediately comes back with:
We're sorry, but we are unable to process your payment at this time. Please verify that the payment information is correct and resubmit your order. If you see this message again, please contact the Credit Card Company or consider another form of payment. After three attempts, you will need to restart your order.

And the following blanks are lit up red:
Card Number:
Expiration Date:
Security Code:
Make sure you use the correct format for the date (IIRC it's mm-yyyy) and that you use the 4 digit front security code, not the rear 3 digit

Both have tripped me up at one time or another
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 8:06 am
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Make sure you use the correct format for the date (IIRC it's mm-yyyy) and that you use the 4 digit front security code, not the rear 3 digit

Both have tripped me up at one time or another
I checked, double checked, and triple checked. Still no go

This card is only about a week old, if that matters
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by brewernq
I checked, double checked, and triple checked. Still no go

This card is only about a week old, if that matters
You may be tripping fraud controls due to no purchase history.

At this point, I'd call the # on the back of the card and ask if everything is ok with your account. Beyond that , I got nothing.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by Stoughton
You may be tripping fraud controls due to no purchase history.

At this point, I'd call the # on the back of the card and ask if everything is ok with your account. Beyond that , I got nothing.
That was it. Thanks
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 8:53 am
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That was it. Thanks
Good. Were they able to clear the flag and let you make the purchase?
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 11:30 am
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Good. Were they able to clear the flag and let you make the purchase?
yes
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 11:40 am
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Yep, sometimes AMEX fraud controls are designed to deny first and ask questions later (by email or phone call). Cardinal Fang has a day job over at AMEX and he simply enjoys torturing customers over innocent transactions, because every transaction must be guilty of something, and if you deny it enough, it will eventially confess all.

So Heretic Customer (if that is even your real name - I think NOT!) why are YOU making fraudulent purchases with OUR card?

Just don't ever respond "Why I never expected The Spanish Inquisition!"

Originally Posted by Stoughton
You may be tripping fraud controls due to no purchase history.

At this point, I'd call the # on the back of the card and ask if everything is ok with your account. Beyond that , I got nothing.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 11:44 am
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yes
Excellent. This is a good example of why it's wise to 'season' a card prior to making large purchases.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 11:57 am
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While using the WRAP12P code along with the current 33% off 2-day shipping offer, it is possible to get free 2-day shipping.
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