FS to open in Venice
May 6, 2009, 12:09 pm
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May 6, 2009, 12:57 pm
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May 6, 2009, 1:13 pm
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serviced apts. 
suggests potential pattern after FS took over management of fractionals at palazzo tornabuoni.
http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/1...our+seasons%22
http://www.guidaviaggi.it/detail.lasso?id=105559
says 2011
http://www.quotidianoimmobiliare.inf...RealVenice.pdf
overall project
http://www.imagebuilding.it/static/p...EF_17Feb09.pdf
http://www.progenia.it/english/the-h...excelsior.html
http://www.progenia.it/english/the-h...des-bains.html
suggests potential pattern after FS took over management of fractionals at palazzo tornabuoni.http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/1...our+seasons%22
170-room Excelsior Four Seasons Venice
70-unit [or 75] Des Bains Four Seasons Serviced Apartments
70-unit [or 75] Des Bains Four Seasons Serviced Apartments
says 2011
http://www.quotidianoimmobiliare.inf...RealVenice.pdf
overall project
http://www.imagebuilding.it/static/p...EF_17Feb09.pdf
http://www.progenia.it/english/the-h...excelsior.html
http://www.progenia.it/english/the-h...des-bains.html
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May 7, 2009, 7:30 am
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Very high-end leisure properties, though, in locations which can take a high room rate. Given the dreadful state and room rates at 'luxury' Venice properties, it can't open soon enough.
May 7, 2009, 9:33 am
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Given how few deluxe leisure properties there are in Europe, a couple of FS beach resorts on the Venice Lido strikes me as an excellent idea. I do hope they retain the boat shuttles to the mainland, as these were superb in the old days.
May 7, 2009, 9:53 am
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Im sure they will. The Excelsior still does, right? The W.Ex is not the worst hotel on the planet, but the FS will set the standard so much higher. Let the countdown begin.
May 8, 2009, 7:29 am
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Oh no, I used to love staying on the Lido when Ciga managed those hotels - so stylish, and there were always regular shuttles to the mainland. Great for families, and let's not forget there is a fantastic beach there. Venice proper is fine for first-timers, but if you go to Venice regularly, say for the Bienalle, then you need to escape to a pool at the end of the day.
May 8, 2009, 7:38 am
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Jan 25, 2010, 4:16 am
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I tend to agree- suspect it will be a project together with Est Capital which is looking to restore the building/gardens of the old hospital on the water and create a luxury hotel as well as some apartments (perhaps time share sales).
Jan 25, 2010, 7:32 am
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yes, as posted. RealVenice project with Fund manager EstCapital SGR. residences are serviced apartments, either for rent or sale.
just noticed residences also mentions 2 villas...?
timeshares = 1 week, FS only has 2 - aviara and scottsdale
fractionals = multiple weeks, lots of luxury ones, including palazzo tornabuoni (FS in florence)
just noticed residences also mentions 2 villas...?
timeshares = 1 week, FS only has 2 - aviara and scottsdale
fractionals = multiple weeks, lots of luxury ones, including palazzo tornabuoni (FS in florence)
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