The Brando (French Polynesia)
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I suppose the first reviews on tripadvisor and here will start to tell the tale--those on TA.com are largely vague and from reviewers with so few contributions that I find them less trustworthy (and none give ANY good details about dining quality or scuba diving, which I find curious).
I remember when Cayo Espanto in Belize first opened with excessive rates that finally dropped to a more sane level in about a year.
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A friend of mine went recently. Said they've done a good job with the eco-tourism and place is gorgeous, but service needs massive improvement. Stated quite a few incidents that they all completely messed up.
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We've considered the Brando as a destination, in concert with the St. Regis or FS Bora Bora or possibly even a cruise on the Paul Gaugin. But with rates as high as they are at the Brando, and the cost/benefit still in doubt relative to other comparable isolated tropical properties (Wakaya, Amanpulo, etc), we won't bother for the time being. Maybe once the property has more of a track record of excellence--and as a site for world class diving in style.
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In general service in India is very good and Bali have a long period of experience in hospitality at the luxury levels- this place does look interesting however the price is somewhat off-putting IF the service and F&B do not weigh up to the level being charged.
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I've yet to go to The Brando. However, as a regular visitor to French Polynesia and the South Pacific for 30-odd years I can say that service standards have never been up to the best of Asia and probably never will be. It's more like the Caribbean - you know, island time.
What I will say is that, for me, the landscape of French Polynesia knocks spots off any Maldive island you might mention - there is a faraway-ness, a colour palette and an exoticism down there in the South Pacific that I haven't encountered anywhere else.
If you want snip-snap service, plasma TVs, spas, tasting menus served underwater, then go to the Maldives. Another great thing about The Brando, which is a huge plus for me, is the lack of overwater bungalows - I regard them as environmentally damaging, aesthetically displeasing, culturally misplaced and a total rip-off and I haven't stayed in one since the good old days of the Hotel Bora Bora.
There's nothing quite so disappointing as gazing out across a limpid lagoon, home of a dozen different hues of blue, towards, say, the volcano of Bora Bora, and having that view ruined by scores of wooden huts on stilts which always remind me of the communal lavatories in the offshore islands of Papua New Guinea.
What I will say is that, for me, the landscape of French Polynesia knocks spots off any Maldive island you might mention - there is a faraway-ness, a colour palette and an exoticism down there in the South Pacific that I haven't encountered anywhere else.
If you want snip-snap service, plasma TVs, spas, tasting menus served underwater, then go to the Maldives. Another great thing about The Brando, which is a huge plus for me, is the lack of overwater bungalows - I regard them as environmentally damaging, aesthetically displeasing, culturally misplaced and a total rip-off and I haven't stayed in one since the good old days of the Hotel Bora Bora.
There's nothing quite so disappointing as gazing out across a limpid lagoon, home of a dozen different hues of blue, towards, say, the volcano of Bora Bora, and having that view ruined by scores of wooden huts on stilts which always remind me of the communal lavatories in the offshore islands of Papua New Guinea.
Last edited by Pausanias; Sep 21, 2014 at 12:35 pm
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That's a shame. I wouldn't pay the current prices of €1800, much less their inflated €3000, to suffer that sort of nonsense.
It's a shame, as the property looks wonderful … I supposed the "good news", such as it is, is that we are in the early days, so service levels have a good chance of rising.
It's a shame, as the property looks wonderful … I supposed the "good news", such as it is, is that we are in the early days, so service levels have a good chance of rising.
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That's a shame. I wouldn't pay the current prices of €1800, much less their inflated €3000, to suffer that sort of nonsense.
It's a shame, as the property looks wonderful … I supposed the "good news", such as it is, is that we are in the early days, so service levels have a good chance of rising.
It's a shame, as the property looks wonderful … I supposed the "good news", such as it is, is that we are in the early days, so service levels have a good chance of rising.
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something that can be valuable to me as well
any chance any of the beaches will compare to amanpulo?
maldives and bora bora do not offer low density at high price
re south pacific, sounded like Baghoarder had good stay at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
agreed
privacy is a hard cost (plus most aman for example targeted lower occupancy)
would certainly agree € rates are better for €/£-earners though, vs $-earners
amanpulo high season (7 night minimum from dec 20 - jan 5, with high occupancy)
$2640 pool villa (although does include dedicated staff)
$2125 beach casita (no pool) incl board (not alcohol) 3 activities in 5 nts then 1 per nt
cheval blanc transfers now $4636 per couple peak season
they do now publish transfers on regular plane for $2318
cheval blanc high season (xmas/nye MUCH higher than this)
$3294 water villa
$3843 garden water villa
$4026 island villa
plus very expensive F&B
rates include breakfast
i bet no low-density in maldives because only leasehold & joint-venture, and perhaps sea level
$3037 looks like current rate for FS golden triangle, and IIRC its F&B is poorly regarded here
for me, the landscape of French Polynesia knocks spots off any Maldive island you might mention - there is a faraway-ness, a colour palette and an exoticism down there in the South Pacific that I haven't encountered anywhere else.
Another great thing about The Brando, which is a huge plus for me, is the lack of overwater bungalows
Another great thing about The Brando, which is a huge plus for me, is the lack of overwater bungalows
maldives and bora bora do not offer low density at high price
re south pacific, sounded like Baghoarder had good stay at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
agreed
would certainly agree € rates are better for €/£-earners though, vs $-earners
not private island. private atoll with 12 islands private to resort. this is a first.
tetiaroa atoll 35 villas [all-inclusive]
€2055 jul 1 to sep 30 2014
€3423 oct 1 to mar 31 2016
includes one excursion per day and one spa treatment per day [per couple]
comparisons must factor in
- rate inclusions which also mean property and roomcount
- seasonal rates. most aman dont have seasonal rates, but for example >
$2745 10 night minimum 1BR no pool no view amanyara dec 20 2014 - jan 6 2015 with basically no inclusions
(annual rates allow best season and or holiday for no premium, instead of low season discount)
tetiaroa atoll 35 villas [all-inclusive]
€2055 jul 1 to sep 30 2014
€3423 oct 1 to mar 31 2016
includes one excursion per day and one spa treatment per day [per couple]
comparisons must factor in
- rate inclusions which also mean property and roomcount
- seasonal rates. most aman dont have seasonal rates, but for example >
$2745 10 night minimum 1BR no pool no view amanyara dec 20 2014 - jan 6 2015 with basically no inclusions
(annual rates allow best season and or holiday for no premium, instead of low season discount)
$2640 pool villa (although does include dedicated staff)
$2125 beach casita (no pool) incl board (not alcohol) 3 activities in 5 nts then 1 per nt
they do now publish transfers on regular plane for $2318
$3294 water villa
$3843 garden water villa
$4026 island villa
plus very expensive F&B
rates include breakfast
i bet no low-density in maldives because only leasehold & joint-venture, and perhaps sea level
$3037 looks like current rate for FS golden triangle, and IIRC its F&B is poorly regarded here
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Sep 21, 2014 at 8:01 pm
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There was quite a big write-up in the Financial Times this weekend, covering the history of the project and a visit to the resort (paywalled): FT write-up