Luxury hotel with surfing in the Western Hemisphere?
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Luxury hotel with surfing in the Western Hemisphere?
Looking for a luxury hotel in the Western Hemisphere that is on or very close (within say 20 minutes) to a beach with beginner surfing. My 7 year old is dying to learn, but I still want a nice vacation. I'm thinking something like the Legian in Bali, but closer to the US. Would any of the hotels in Punta Mita work? Mukul? Any of the nicer hotels in Costa Rica? Barbados? What would the best option in Hawaii or Southern California be? Any other places I am not thinking of that are warm? I have ruled out the places I know already - Cabo and Rincon (surfing too far from the hotels), Montauk (too cold and crowded). Thank you!
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St. Regis, Punta Mita is a great spot with an easy reef and pretty much year around.
Avoid the Caribbean in general for surf. Places like Bali (or Tahiti, i.e. Teahoopoo) generally have more difficult reefs to deal with. The Maldives has several great spots, particularly COMO Maalifushi, but it would be tricky and you'll want to go during the summer and hope the swell isn't too large. Near Cabo there's an easy break called zippers (we spent a month at a condo there), and you can stay at the 0&0 but it'll be a little crowded.
Costa Rica obviously has great surf.... I did a surf trip there in high school but its away from the luxury places.
SoCal is a little chilly except in August and Sept, and you could look at a place called Bacara and there's a spot north called Refugio that's easy. But he'll need a wetsuit.
The south short of oahu is also a great choice.
I used to be a diehard avid surfer and have pretty much been to every break from Santa Cruz to san jose del cabo.
places like rincon are way, way too crowded with very good surfers. You need an easy, thin break.
My advice would be Punta Mita (the St. Regis, for sure) or some place on the southern shore of oahu.
Avoid the Caribbean in general for surf. Places like Bali (or Tahiti, i.e. Teahoopoo) generally have more difficult reefs to deal with. The Maldives has several great spots, particularly COMO Maalifushi, but it would be tricky and you'll want to go during the summer and hope the swell isn't too large. Near Cabo there's an easy break called zippers (we spent a month at a condo there), and you can stay at the 0&0 but it'll be a little crowded.
Costa Rica obviously has great surf.... I did a surf trip there in high school but its away from the luxury places.
SoCal is a little chilly except in August and Sept, and you could look at a place called Bacara and there's a spot north called Refugio that's easy. But he'll need a wetsuit.
The south short of oahu is also a great choice.
I used to be a diehard avid surfer and have pretty much been to every break from Santa Cruz to san jose del cabo.
places like rincon are way, way too crowded with very good surfers. You need an easy, thin break.
My advice would be Punta Mita (the St. Regis, for sure) or some place on the southern shore of oahu.
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EDIT: Nevermind, that was just me projecting. Brrr.
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Mavericks typically breaks during the winter, and you're talking enormous, 20' plus waves in shark infested and very cold water.
Go for warmer water with reasonable waves. It's a 7 year old.
Go for warmer water with reasonable waves. It's a 7 year old.
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Mavericks is ludicrous for a 7 yo ... or a 22 yo who has never surfed.
DSI has given you some fantastic information. To piggyback, I'd just add: he's a first-timer - unless he's a natural, it's honestly not going to matter too much where you are.
DSI has given you some fantastic information. To piggyback, I'd just add: he's a first-timer - unless he's a natural, it's honestly not going to matter too much where you are.
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great details!
punta mita beachfront >
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pu...4d-105.5269376
st regis after 4th nt free
668 7 beachfront room (4 are 2 queen)
968 2 beachfront suite
1061 2 beachfront suite with jacuzzi
1793? 3 beachfront suite/villa with pool
2168? 1 2BR beachfront villa with pool
2543? 1 3BR beachfront villa with pool
one-category upgrade to villa was/is possible
has had 3rd nt free in past, not sure re last
FS after 3rd nt free
700 3 beachfront room
1400 2 beachfront suite with plunge pool
those rates actually down from past high
maui beach recommendations for surfing?
if hana, also travaasa there (ex hotel hana)
ssl-travaasa.scdn4.secure.raxcdn.com/pdf/Travaasa-Hana-Maui-Property-Map.pdf
montage (ex RC condos) is 1 mile from RC
andaz rents condos (buildings D C B, not sure re ground floor)
hawaiirevealed.com/resort-reviews/andaz-maui-at-wailea-resort/
edit - seems mauna kea may be winner in hawaii, has beachfront lawn rooms
re amanera beach, at the other end of beach is playagrandebeachclub.com
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pu...4d-105.5269376
st regis after 4th nt free
668 7 beachfront room (4 are 2 queen)
968 2 beachfront suite
1061 2 beachfront suite with jacuzzi
1793? 3 beachfront suite/villa with pool
2168? 1 2BR beachfront villa with pool
2543? 1 3BR beachfront villa with pool
one-category upgrade to villa was/is possible
has had 3rd nt free in past, not sure re last
FS after 3rd nt free
700 3 beachfront room
1400 2 beachfront suite with plunge pool
those rates actually down from past high
maui beach recommendations for surfing?
if hana, also travaasa there (ex hotel hana)
ssl-travaasa.scdn4.secure.raxcdn.com/pdf/Travaasa-Hana-Maui-Property-Map.pdf
montage (ex RC condos) is 1 mile from RC
andaz rents condos (buildings D C B, not sure re ground floor)
hawaiirevealed.com/resort-reviews/andaz-maui-at-wailea-resort/
edit - seems mauna kea may be winner in hawaii, has beachfront lawn rooms
re amanera beach, at the other end of beach is playagrandebeachclub.com
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Mar 16, 2017 at 8:38 pm
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Great thread. We have a six year old and I'm thinking about the same trip for him.
Actually, after thinking about it, the StRegis Punta Mita is more of a slow reef break. The St Regis has better surf than the FS.
I actually think I'd recommend Tamarindo in Costa Rica. There are several luxury hotels in Guanacaste. The water is very warm, the beach is very flat so the waves don't break as a shore break (you'll probably be there with him... so it'll be comfortable for you), they rent the softer plastic blue surfboards, no sharks.
Not sure what hotels are there. We stayed at the Westin which is about 15 minutes away, and I know that most people on FT have stayed at the big box hotels like the FS or the Westin. I might suggest something a little closer to the beach. Ocho Artisan Bungalows?
Actually, after thinking about it, the StRegis Punta Mita is more of a slow reef break. The St Regis has better surf than the FS.
I actually think I'd recommend Tamarindo in Costa Rica. There are several luxury hotels in Guanacaste. The water is very warm, the beach is very flat so the waves don't break as a shore break (you'll probably be there with him... so it'll be comfortable for you), they rent the softer plastic blue surfboards, no sharks.
Not sure what hotels are there. We stayed at the Westin which is about 15 minutes away, and I know that most people on FT have stayed at the big box hotels like the FS or the Westin. I might suggest something a little closer to the beach. Ocho Artisan Bungalows?
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We just used the concierge or relied on a recommendation from a local to find an instructor. I can't remember names any more, sorry, but shouldn't be difficult to find a qualified instructor on Maui!
I don't know if there are any good surf spots near Hana, which is also harder to get to and has basically no eating/dining options other than the one or two hotels there. Yes, it is wildly beautiful, but I don't recommend people stay there unless they know exactly what they are getting into. Sorta like Pahoa on the big island that way...
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Excellent suggestions. As a beginner surfer living in SoCal, I can say any beginner surfer will find SoCal, Hawaiian islands (leeward sides), Mexico, and perhaps some spots in Costa Rica with plenty of luxury hotel options from which to choose. If you want warmer water, though, you probably should aim for Mexico (St Regis Punta Mita is an excellent suggestion) or Hawaii.
If you don't mind the cooler water in SoCal (even in Aug/Sept the water temp is in the low 70s), you have tons of great options like Pelican Hill, Montage, Ritz Carlton Laguna Niguel, Monarch Beach Resort (former St. Regis) here in Orange County alone, the epicenter of SoCal surfing. Nice easy waves, lots of instructors, plenty of breaks, etc.
If you don't mind the cooler water in SoCal (even in Aug/Sept the water temp is in the low 70s), you have tons of great options like Pelican Hill, Montage, Ritz Carlton Laguna Niguel, Monarch Beach Resort (former St. Regis) here in Orange County alone, the epicenter of SoCal surfing. Nice easy waves, lots of instructors, plenty of breaks, etc.
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I've been to Newport maybe 100x times and there can be decent surf, but it'll still require a wetsuit and because the waves break closer to the shore rather than roll slowly because of a very slight slope from the beach to the ocean. Hunington all the more so. Other places in SoCal, like Sam Clemente, etc... tend to have breaks more oriented towards piers or sandbars and not the place I'd bring our son.
Tamarindo will be easier and even warmer than Punta Mita. A seven year old doesn't mind coldish water, but you will, so I'd avoid the wetsuits altogether and skip CA.
In short, the south shore of any Hawaiian Island (I have a lot of experience in Oahu) or Costa Rica. Both will make fantastic trips too since I doubt he'll be surfing 5 hours a day.
FDW: Good luck! Hope the surf is decent. If it's just a shore break I'd avoid taking the lesson... take a golf lesson. It's a phenomenal value there, actually!
Tamarindo will be easier and even warmer than Punta Mita. A seven year old doesn't mind coldish water, but you will, so I'd avoid the wetsuits altogether and skip CA.
In short, the south shore of any Hawaiian Island (I have a lot of experience in Oahu) or Costa Rica. Both will make fantastic trips too since I doubt he'll be surfing 5 hours a day.
FDW: Good luck! Hope the surf is decent. If it's just a shore break I'd avoid taking the lesson... take a golf lesson. It's a phenomenal value there, actually!