HONs - do you fly mostly on F and C class ?
#1
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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HONs - do you fly mostly on F and C class ?
I think I travel a lot: 2-3 european trips every month + some intercontinentals (about 8 a year). Almost all flights in Y class. Although las year I was extreamly busy travelling have got only SEN status (at the end of the year).
Before joined this forum could not imagine how to get HON status and though that LH has jast a few HONs. But looks like HONs population is quite big.
Just wondering what kind of profession you hold ? Are you executives who fly only in F and C class for board meetings or so ?
Do you often use prive jet or just regular flights ?
Is there any HON who made her/his status in Y ?
Regards
Tomek
Before joined this forum could not imagine how to get HON status and though that LH has jast a few HONs. But looks like HONs population is quite big.
Just wondering what kind of profession you hold ? Are you executives who fly only in F and C class for board meetings or so ?
Do you often use prive jet or just regular flights ?
Is there any HON who made her/his status in Y ?
Regards
Tomek
#4
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: EDI
Posts: 699
Budget Economy would be enough from Shanghai or Ghangzhou for the Chinese worker! Peking gives only 2420 miles (+ FTL bonus) in 'S' or 'W'
In order to get to HON in two years you need to average 5000 miles per week if you are already FTL or better. I've used 48 weeks per year because we all like a holiday... maybe spend some miles on an award
(5000 + (5000 * 0.25)) * 48 = 300.000 miles
Anybody who would put up with that sort of mileage in LH 'Y' class deserves more than HON status, probably a free trip to a psychiatrist for starters...
In order to get to HON in two years you need to average 5000 miles per week if you are already FTL or better. I've used 48 weeks per year because we all like a holiday... maybe spend some miles on an award
(5000 + (5000 * 0.25)) * 48 = 300.000 miles
Anybody who would put up with that sort of mileage in LH 'Y' class deserves more than HON status, probably a free trip to a psychiatrist for starters...
Last edited by allanhuk; Jan 7, 2007 at 12:56 pm Reason: messed up with the mileages...
#6
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Any class that's most convenient. Lots of Y, very seldom paid F.
Requalified for LH HON, SQ PPS and ANA Plat in 2006. Was the least active of the last 10 years.
I am not a construction worker and I went to China only once.
Looks like I will be back to my old standards for the coming 5 years. I am not at all looking forward to it. The new business requires it more than ever before.
Requalified for LH HON, SQ PPS and ANA Plat in 2006. Was the least active of the last 10 years.
I am not a construction worker and I went to China only once.
Looks like I will be back to my old standards for the coming 5 years. I am not at all looking forward to it. The new business requires it more than ever before.
#7
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Location: Point Place, Wisconsin
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On a serious note, I think for most HONs the qualification comes automatically through their job profiles and location. It is actually not that difficult: If you just fly a weekly intra-Europe C return you will have over 250k status miles in one year, throw in a couple of longhauls in C and you will be there within two years.
If on the other hand you are doing mainly longhaul it can be achieved quicker. Saying that, I have seen quite a lot of HONs on other airlines. On my last CX flight in F from HKG-FRA there were 3 (!) LH HONs in First.I have also seen them (or rather their luggage tags) on DBA and in economy on LH domestic flights. I hardly ever fly in C on German domestic routes - I buy the cheapest there is and if I really need the flexibility after booking I just have to buy a one-way C seldomly.
If on the other hand you are doing mainly longhaul it can be achieved quicker. Saying that, I have seen quite a lot of HONs on other airlines. On my last CX flight in F from HKG-FRA there were 3 (!) LH HONs in First.I have also seen them (or rather their luggage tags) on DBA and in economy on LH domestic flights. I hardly ever fly in C on German domestic routes - I buy the cheapest there is and if I really need the flexibility after booking I just have to buy a one-way C seldomly.
#8
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Budget Economy would be enough from Shanghai or Ghangzhou for the Chinese worker! Peking gives only 2420 miles (+ FTL bonus) in 'S' or 'W'
In order to get to HON in two years you need to average 5000 miles per week if you are already FTL or better. I've used 48 weeks per year because we all like a holiday... maybe spend some miles on an award
(5000 + (5000 * 0.25)) * 48 = 300.000 miles
Anybody who would put up with that sort of mileage in LH 'Y' class deserves more than HON status, probably a free trip to a psychiatrist for starters...
In order to get to HON in two years you need to average 5000 miles per week if you are already FTL or better. I've used 48 weeks per year because we all like a holiday... maybe spend some miles on an award
(5000 + (5000 * 0.25)) * 48 = 300.000 miles
Anybody who would put up with that sort of mileage in LH 'Y' class deserves more than HON status, probably a free trip to a psychiatrist for starters...
I guess flying every other months from India to the US is something a lot of people do these days....
Cheers, S
#9
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Programs: LH HON, Qantas Platinum, Amex Centurion
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Since I already had my coming out in another thread, I can confirm that after a nightmare flight FRA-LAX in LH Y in Jan 1999, I never ever flew Y on longhaul again. And I will defintely never do it again, would cancel any meeting or holiday for that reason.
Since 2002, I even try my best to avoid C, if not booked in A,F by upgrading on all occasions. Flew around 80 Intercont segements from 2003 to 2006 of which only two were in C. I also avoided all LH-flights without available F-class.
In Europe, I often fly Y since it doesn't offer so much value to fly C, if seat blocking is working.
Qualified for HON within 12,5 months after making the decision to go for it.
Before, I had much more business with Oneworld and other Star Alliance Airlines.
Since 2002, I even try my best to avoid C, if not booked in A,F by upgrading on all occasions. Flew around 80 Intercont segements from 2003 to 2006 of which only two were in C. I also avoided all LH-flights without available F-class.
In Europe, I often fly Y since it doesn't offer so much value to fly C, if seat blocking is working.
Qualified for HON within 12,5 months after making the decision to go for it.
Before, I had much more business with Oneworld and other Star Alliance Airlines.
#10
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Since I already had my coming out in another thread, I can confirm that after a nightmare flight FRA-LAX in LH Y in Jan 1999, I never ever flew Y on longhaul again. And I will defintely never do it again, would cancel any meeting or holiday for that reason.
Since 2002, I even try my best to avoid C, if not booked in A,F by upgrading on all occasions. Flew around 80 Intercont segements from 2003 to 2006 of which only two were in C. I also avoided all LH-flights without available F-class.
In Europe, I often fly Y since it doesn't offer so much value to fly C, if seat blocking is working.
Qualified for HON within 12,5 months after making the decision to go for it.
Before, I had much more business with Oneworld and other Star Alliance Airlines.
Since 2002, I even try my best to avoid C, if not booked in A,F by upgrading on all occasions. Flew around 80 Intercont segements from 2003 to 2006 of which only two were in C. I also avoided all LH-flights without available F-class.
In Europe, I often fly Y since it doesn't offer so much value to fly C, if seat blocking is working.
Qualified for HON within 12,5 months after making the decision to go for it.
Before, I had much more business with Oneworld and other Star Alliance Airlines.
#12
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Spain, France, Shanghai, US
Programs: LH Hon, AF Flying Blue Gold
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In my case, it's 2 to 3 long hauls/ month in C. Mostly to the US and China. Nothing intra-European, as I don't even fly LH in that case. That program adds rather quickly towards the 600K miles. Last year only it was upwards of 560K.
#13
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First over the pond and (deeply) dicounted Economy in Germany. Some Swiss J or Z class fares (for the sake of getting 10000 miles for requalification).
#14
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Maybe it's not the Chinese construction worker, but for certain it's the Indian IT specialist. On my last flight from MAA to FRA there were 12 HONs on the flight. All of them in C . Besides me and Mrs DFW-SEN there were only two other passengers on the upper deck.....
I guess flying every other months from India to the US is something a lot of people do these days....
Cheers, S
I guess flying every other months from India to the US is something a lot of people do these days....
Cheers, S
#15
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An ex-senior manager of mine (about 8 years ago) was an FTL. Same as a senior partner to the company I was working for. I was a SEN at that time. Those guys were making a two-digit integer multiple of what I was earning.
Of course, with that I don't want to say that FTL ..."rules" . Just that people with good jobs really don't fly much. At least not with commercial airliners. Of course, you may define a good job as the job that entails a lot of flying, especially if you're young, innocent and FTer... But good jobs don't require you to fly. Actually they don't require you to do pretty much anything on a specific, strict schedule that is not set by yourself, be it flying or running, walking, swimming or pole-vaulting. That's why they are good jobs.
Bottomline: People with good jobs don't have to fly. Slaves do.
Ready to be bashed.
Of course, with that I don't want to say that FTL ..."rules" . Just that people with good jobs really don't fly much. At least not with commercial airliners. Of course, you may define a good job as the job that entails a lot of flying, especially if you're young, innocent and FTer... But good jobs don't require you to fly. Actually they don't require you to do pretty much anything on a specific, strict schedule that is not set by yourself, be it flying or running, walking, swimming or pole-vaulting. That's why they are good jobs.
Bottomline: People with good jobs don't have to fly. Slaves do.
Ready to be bashed.