LH/LX should demand that UA be suspended from Star Alliance
Apr 15, 2017, 5:31 pm
#31
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I agree that the treatment of the passenger on UA3411 is a new low on how airlines treat their customers, but LH and in particular LX are not far behind. I personally witnessed the handling of an overbooking of an LX flight by 27 pax on a 100 seater Avro service. Police also was called - although by the disgrunteled passengers and they also removed at least one person involuntarily after boarding. There was no dragging and no injury/blood of the passenger involved, which is an important difference (!), but otherwise it was very similar. So why would LX condemn a scene which could happen any day to them ...
Apr 16, 2017, 10:47 am
#32
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Apr 16, 2017, 11:13 am
#33
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Fine, which should address your concern. But why are you trying to impose your view of the situation on others by demanding that others be deprived of the advantages of the membership of United in the Star Alliance just so you may feel good about yourself?
Apr 16, 2017, 2:18 pm
#34
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Based on Flight UA 3411 on Sunday, 9. April 2017
Official request made to LH/LX:
1. UA should be suspended from Star Alliance, effective immediately.
2. All codeshares with UA should be terminated, effective immediately.
This shall not be tolerated.
I will never board another UA aircraft.
Official request made to LH/LX:
1. UA should be suspended from Star Alliance, effective immediately.
2. All codeshares with UA should be terminated, effective immediately.
This shall not be tolerated.
I will never board another UA aircraft.
Official request made to Miles and More:
Lufthansa should be suspended from Miles and More, effective immediately.
Redemption for PHL-FRA and return, both in C, for 105,000 miles + 1,100 Euros.
Maybe they are not beating their customers (yet), but they are abusing them.
Last edited by Grog; Apr 16, 2017 at 2:53 pm
Apr 16, 2017, 2:22 pm
#35
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https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/co...-ventures.html
(And +1 in favor of closing this thread)
Last edited by Grog; Apr 16, 2017 at 2:56 pm
Apr 16, 2017, 2:43 pm
#36
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+1000 the flight wasn't even operated by UA. If the OP wants to take their $$$ elsewhere ... fine. Excluding UA from *A is simply ridiculous
Apr 16, 2017, 11:40 pm
#37
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Why are you trying to impose your view of the situation on others by demanding others be deprived of feeling good about themselves just so you may have the advantages of membership of United in the Star Alliance?
Apr 17, 2017, 5:14 pm
#38
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Apr 17, 2017, 9:55 pm
#40
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Based on Flight UA 3411 on Sunday, 9. April 2017
Official request made to LH/LX:
1. UA should be suspended from Star Alliance, effective immediately.
2. All codeshares with UA should be terminated, effective immediately.
This shall not be tolerated.
I will never board another UA aircraft.
Official request made to LH/LX:
1. UA should be suspended from Star Alliance, effective immediately.
2. All codeshares with UA should be terminated, effective immediately.
This shall not be tolerated.
I will never board another UA aircraft.
But the US police departments focus their brutality on particular kind of people. Blacks, Muslims, the poor, left-wingers - or even Asians. So being a white, christian, well-dressed mainstream guy from Switzerland, you should not have any problems with that, even on a UA flight.
And if you think, that is not OK as a matter of principle, you should not travel to the US at all. And if you don't travel to the US anyway, you don't need to care about UA.
And not to forget: Chances are that the passenger will get a couple of millions dollars per lost tooth. Normally victims of police brutality are not that lucky.
Apr 18, 2017, 6:55 am
#41
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Police brutality is quite usual in the US, much much more than in Europe and especially in Switzerland.
But the US police departments focus their brutality on particular kind of people. Blacks, Muslims, the poor, left-wingers - or even Asians. So being a white, christian, well-dressed mainstream guy from Switzerland, you should not have any problems with that, even on a UA flight.
And if you think, that is not OK as a matter of principle, you should not travel to the US at all. And if you don't travel to the US anyway, you don't need to care about UA.
And not to forget: Chances are that the passenger will get a couple of millions dollars per lost tooth. Normally victims of police brutality are not that lucky.
But the US police departments focus their brutality on particular kind of people. Blacks, Muslims, the poor, left-wingers - or even Asians. So being a white, christian, well-dressed mainstream guy from Switzerland, you should not have any problems with that, even on a UA flight.
And if you think, that is not OK as a matter of principle, you should not travel to the US at all. And if you don't travel to the US anyway, you don't need to care about UA.
And not to forget: Chances are that the passenger will get a couple of millions dollars per lost tooth. Normally victims of police brutality are not that lucky.
My point is that I do not believe that it is in the interest of LH/LX to pass their paying customers over to UA/UX for connecting flights or codeshares, given the behaviour that we have seen.
I believe that there are LX/LH customers who would not want "seamless" travel with an airline that has its passengers abused. Moreover as a regular LH/LX traveler, I would not want to be interlined with UA/UX.
Apr 18, 2017, 7:50 am
#42
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Then don't book codeshares or connecting itineraries with UA! What possible justification is there for others who do want codeshares or interline with UA to be inconvenienced based on your personal views?
Apr 18, 2017, 8:15 am
#43
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Or do you have a fundamental problem with that too?
Apr 18, 2017, 9:14 am
#44
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My point is that I do not believe that it is in the interest of LH/LX to pass their paying customers over to UA/UX for connecting flights or codeshares, given the behaviour that we have seen.
I believe that there are LX/LH customers who would not want "seamless" travel with an airline that has its passengers abused. Moreover as a regular LH/LX traveler, I would not want to be interlined with UA/UX.
I believe that there are LX/LH customers who would not want "seamless" travel with an airline that has its passengers abused. Moreover as a regular LH/LX traveler, I would not want to be interlined with UA/UX.
The real trouble in that case was the police brutality and that kind of police brutality could happen at every airport in the US, on every airline.
