FRA-TLV going from L/H to S/H - How do you feel about it? [merged]
May 22, 2014, 1:52 pm
#572
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They haven't changed the flight times, they have simply dropped the third daily flight.
however, from October they are bringing the 3rd daily back 3 days a week (to start with...) which will leave LHR at 16:30 (arriving TLV 23:35) and departing TLV at 10:30 (arriving LHR at 14:00).
At the same time they will be moving the 777 to operate the night flight out of LHR (and morning flight back from TLV) with both other daily flights operating with the A321.
however, from October they are bringing the 3rd daily back 3 days a week (to start with...) which will leave LHR at 16:30 (arriving TLV 23:35) and departing TLV at 10:30 (arriving LHR at 14:00).
At the same time they will be moving the 777 to operate the night flight out of LHR (and morning flight back from TLV) with both other daily flights operating with the A321.
May 25, 2014, 1:00 am
#574
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May 25, 2014, 1:08 am
#575
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May 25, 2014, 1:14 am
#576
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It's infuriating when they sub - I agree. But BA_Jfan said, "what a loss" and "LX was one of the last carriers..." implying that the switch to A320 is a permanent switch. I was disagreeing with that sentiment
Oct 15, 2014, 4:37 pm
#577
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Mrs. SFO laughed when I gave her the option of LH's phony short-haul Euro J class to TLV.
So we're on United pmCO J to TLV and then a creative LY real J from TLV-FRA (AA miles) connecting back to DEN in LH First (M&M miles). No way would I fly S/H LH on a 4+ hour route.
So we're on United pmCO J to TLV and then a creative LY real J from TLV-FRA (AA miles) connecting back to DEN in LH First (M&M miles). No way would I fly S/H LH on a 4+ hour route.
Jan 25, 2015, 10:05 pm
#578
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An article in Globes interviewing a VP from Turkish Airlines about how they are the largest foreign carrier out of TLV:
The most interesting part: "the downgrading of Lufthansa's business class on its Tel Aviv route contributed a great deal, and brought us many passengers."
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-t...ute-1001003747
The most interesting part: "the downgrading of Lufthansa's business class on its Tel Aviv route contributed a great deal, and brought us many passengers."
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-t...ute-1001003747
Jan 26, 2015, 1:23 am
#579
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An article in Globes interviewing a VP from Turkish Airlines about how they are the largest foreign carrier out of TLV:
The most interesting part: "the downgrading of Lufthansa's business class on its Tel Aviv route contributed a great deal, and brought us many passengers."
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-t...ute-1001003747
The most interesting part: "the downgrading of Lufthansa's business class on its Tel Aviv route contributed a great deal, and brought us many passengers."
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-t...ute-1001003747
Jan 26, 2015, 9:04 am
#580
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+1. The most common language spoken in IST Lounge was German - for a time. Until TK and LH decided to go shrink their respective mileage accrual to 25% of actual miles, even in C.
For me, back to BA (TXL LHR TLV redeye). Only decent intra-european redeye TLV - you can actually grab 4+ of sleep in C.
Oh, how I miss the days when you flew in late to ZRH and were able to consistently sleep on the 340 instead of Camping in a 321. Also, TLV used to be very last departure out of ZRH airport - that in itself provided a certain kick.
For me, back to BA (TXL LHR TLV redeye). Only decent intra-european redeye TLV - you can actually grab 4+ of sleep in C.
Oh, how I miss the days when you flew in late to ZRH and were able to consistently sleep on the 340 instead of Camping in a 321. Also, TLV used to be very last departure out of ZRH airport - that in itself provided a certain kick.
Jan 26, 2015, 11:26 am
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Having flown TK between TLV and the US multiple times, I am a huge fan of their product. Their short haul business cabin from TLV-IST is a very solid product for a 2 hour flight.
Jan 26, 2015, 2:42 pm
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LH's NEK change turned out to be an economical stimulus package for other airlines operating to Egypt and Israel! 
Well done LH, strengthening competition abroad!
Well done LH, strengthening competition abroad!
Jan 27, 2015, 7:37 am
#583
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LH is deploying their widebodies to other destinations and getting a decent yield from them too. The A32S flying to TLV are also pretty full. Competition seems to be happy too... 
all around!
all around!
Jan 27, 2015, 7:38 am
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Jan 27, 2015, 7:39 am
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