Utter noob needs advice to help make my BF's father's last trip awesome.
Jul 17, 2012, 2:12 am
#16
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ridgefield, CT and CGN
Posts: 455
Yeah, I got that earlier. I called in just out of curiosity to see about upgrading now, and the very nice lady said "Okay, hon, the fare difference plus the change fee will be $9134.25....per person. You wanna go ahead and do that?"
At which point I came on here to ask for advice...which is probably why the "suggestions" I got from the first few replies rubbed me wrong.
Thanks again, and I'll keep my fingers crossed.
At which point I came on here to ask for advice...which is probably why the "suggestions" I got from the first few replies rubbed me wrong.
Thanks again, and I'll keep my fingers crossed.
If not, it sounds like LH calculated the difference to full fare Business. I am not the fare expert around here, but maybe some others can comment on the feasibility of paying the fare difference V to Z only??
PS. Welcome to FT and I hope you decide to stick around. As sschwenk said, most of the people around here are quite friendly and helpful!
Jul 17, 2012, 2:21 am
#17
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 363
Yeah, I got that earlier. I called in just out of curiosity to see about upgrading now, and the very nice lady said "Okay, hon, the fare difference plus the change fee will be $9134.25....per person. You wanna go ahead and do that?"
At which point I came on here to ask for advice...which is probably why the "suggestions" I got from the first few replies rubbed me wrong.
Thanks again, and I'll keep my fingers crossed.
At which point I came on here to ask for advice...which is probably why the "suggestions" I got from the first few replies rubbed me wrong.
Thanks again, and I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Well remember FT is not a travel agency. People in here a very commited to providing answers, not to mention the extra mile to investigate things. So your reaction is kind of a fb/youtube standard, but not welcome on FT.
Nevertheless have a good trip in C - at least for your dad and you bf. If you get them the last rows in C, and you get the first ones in Y then it can save you alot of money and still is kind of a familly trip...
Jul 17, 2012, 2:47 am
#18
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Southern Bavaria, Germany
Programs: LH Blue, BA Blue, Hyatt Gold
Posts: 1,517
Some tiny slices of advice
Sorry for any trouble caused by other posters which didn´t respond accordingly to your post at the first glimpse. Just have two tiny slices of advice:
1.) All fares for Economy Class at Lufthansa enable a choice of a specific seat.
Just have made a price quotation for your flights and that delivers:
Economy Basic II Economy Basic Plus II Economy Basic Plus III Economy Flex
Umbuchung: USD 250 USD 250 USD 250 kostenlos
Erstattung: nicht enthalten USD 300 USD 300 kostenlos
Meilengutschrift:* 100% 100% 150% 150%
Meilenupgrade:** erlaubt erlaubt erlaubt erlaubt
Sitzplatzreservierung:*** Sitzplatzreservierung Sitzplatzreservierung Sitzplatzreservierung Sitzplatzreservierung
All fares enable the seat reservation
So you can just phone Lufthansa and ask for the allocation of a specific seat which you can designate by row number and the letter.
Seat maps can be found here:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=1755376&l=de
So ask them which aircraft variant of B747-400 it is.
Then you can reserve the economy seats of both together and avoiding them being stuck in the not-so desired middle seats.
2.) Indeed upgrading at Lufthansa is much more expensive than at other carriers which have a policy of price fluctuation and then trying to UPSELL people for one class of service against cash. BA does this regularly but in that case there is no guarantee of the offer and the upselling would only be from Economy Class to Premium Economy (called World Traveller Plus)
3.) Assumed they would like to have more space than in Economy they can pay ONE additional seat in Economy. Then they could reserve the three seats for two adults. This wouldn´t enable the family experience but having them more space together.
4.) For Upgrade against miles it´s a bit late. But if there would be more time for the next flight you can just search for Credit Cards delivering Lufthansa Miles&More miles. And then combine miles being purchased from Miles&More and the credit card option miles.
So if I would be you I would buy this one Extraseat and then reserve a complete block of three seats. As this seat is paid and sold no other passenger can use it.
You can enforce it by having the boarding pass ready which shows the "normal" seat and the "additional" seat.
Hope this helps.
Sorry have no other idea for a solution.
1.) All fares for Economy Class at Lufthansa enable a choice of a specific seat.
Just have made a price quotation for your flights and that delivers:
Economy Basic II Economy Basic Plus II Economy Basic Plus III Economy Flex
Umbuchung: USD 250 USD 250 USD 250 kostenlos
Erstattung: nicht enthalten USD 300 USD 300 kostenlos
Meilengutschrift:* 100% 100% 150% 150%
Meilenupgrade:** erlaubt erlaubt erlaubt erlaubt
Sitzplatzreservierung:*** Sitzplatzreservierung Sitzplatzreservierung Sitzplatzreservierung Sitzplatzreservierung
All fares enable the seat reservation
So you can just phone Lufthansa and ask for the allocation of a specific seat which you can designate by row number and the letter.
Seat maps can be found here:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=1755376&l=de
So ask them which aircraft variant of B747-400 it is.
Then you can reserve the economy seats of both together and avoiding them being stuck in the not-so desired middle seats.
2.) Indeed upgrading at Lufthansa is much more expensive than at other carriers which have a policy of price fluctuation and then trying to UPSELL people for one class of service against cash. BA does this regularly but in that case there is no guarantee of the offer and the upselling would only be from Economy Class to Premium Economy (called World Traveller Plus)
3.) Assumed they would like to have more space than in Economy they can pay ONE additional seat in Economy. Then they could reserve the three seats for two adults. This wouldn´t enable the family experience but having them more space together.
4.) For Upgrade against miles it´s a bit late. But if there would be more time for the next flight you can just search for Credit Cards delivering Lufthansa Miles&More miles. And then combine miles being purchased from Miles&More and the credit card option miles.
So if I would be you I would buy this one Extraseat and then reserve a complete block of three seats. As this seat is paid and sold no other passenger can use it.
You can enforce it by having the boarding pass ready which shows the "normal" seat and the "additional" seat.
Hope this helps.
Sorry have no other idea for a solution.
Jul 17, 2012, 3:33 am
#19
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 954
I understand that taking a nonstop flight would probably be the best and certainly most comfortable. Have you considered working with a good TA or searching yourself for 4 business class seats on another airline, perhaps there are better prices than with LH and then you could allocate four seats together?
I think that likely the best suggestion is to switch seats with parents. Coach is livable and you and you're SO could certainly feel good about making the switch. Outside of this there isnt really much choice, you have no miles and cannot pay for the price difference. Its not as if you could all be together anyway like on a train where you could all sit and talk together.
I think that likely the best suggestion is to switch seats with parents. Coach is livable and you and you're SO could certainly feel good about making the switch. Outside of this there isnt really much choice, you have no miles and cannot pay for the price difference. Its not as if you could all be together anyway like on a train where you could all sit and talk together.
Jul 17, 2012, 3:43 am
#20
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Programs: M&M SEN, Amex Plat, Club Carlson, Marriott, HHonors & Accor Gold, Velocity Silver, Qantas Bronze
Posts: 3,767
Risking that I could be sweared and yelled at - did you pre-order and prepay the oxygen? It appears that LH chages for it extra (see also this link:
BTW, there are airlines that do not allow oxygen in discounted buckets and one has to pay higher bucket to be able to travel with oxygen...
Oxygen on Lufthansa aircrafts
Wenoll system available on all Lufthansa operated flights and in all classes. Exceptions: not available on Cityline or regional partners. Usage in First Class during take-off and landing is not possible.
Charges:
Continental flights: EUR 150 per leg.
Intercontinental flights: EUR 300 per leg.
If after reading the various topics above, you have a specific medical question that has not been answered, please feel free to contact our Medical Desk. The Lufthansa Medical Desk is open Monday through Friday, from 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. EST at the following number: 1-516-296-9580.
Wenoll system available on all Lufthansa operated flights and in all classes. Exceptions: not available on Cityline or regional partners. Usage in First Class during take-off and landing is not possible.
Charges:
Continental flights: EUR 150 per leg.
Intercontinental flights: EUR 300 per leg.
If after reading the various topics above, you have a specific medical question that has not been answered, please feel free to contact our Medical Desk. The Lufthansa Medical Desk is open Monday through Friday, from 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. EST at the following number: 1-516-296-9580.
Jul 17, 2012, 3:53 am
#21
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Programs: M&M SEN, Amex Plat, Club Carlson, Marriott, HHonors & Accor Gold, Velocity Silver, Qantas Bronze
Posts: 3,767
[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
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FRA Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] LAX Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX] THU 30 Aug 2012 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------------------------------------------------------- LH 450 FRA 14:00 LAX 16:40 744 F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R2 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 N4 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0
Jul 17, 2012, 4:33 am
#22
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 7
Here is current inventory - that gives you pretty good idea of upgrade chances:
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LAX Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX] FRA Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] WED 25 Jul 2012 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------------------------------------------------------- LH 451 LAX 19:05 FRA 14:50 744 F5 A5 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 N0 V6 W2 S7 T2 L2 K0
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FRA Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] LAX Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX] THU 30 Aug 2012 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------------------------------------------------------- LH 450 FRA 14:00 LAX 16:40 744 F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R2 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 N4 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0
Seriously, thank you SO much. This is exactly what I was looking for!!!
Jul 17, 2012, 12:40 pm
#23
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
Posts: 8,852
What I really don't get if you really want them to take the trip is that you dismiss the option of 2 people sitting in business and the other two in economy so easily.
Arguments as you want it to be a family trip (won't you be staying Germany together, it's only a few hours on the plane?) or that your boyfriend doesn't like to travel in Y (sure it's not really comfortable but a lot of people do it everyday) seem really weak, especially given the circumtances.
The price is what it is, really no way to avoid that. Upgrades on these economy fares just won't happen. So just fly with a combination of business and economy....
Arguments as you want it to be a family trip (won't you be staying Germany together, it's only a few hours on the plane?) or that your boyfriend doesn't like to travel in Y (sure it's not really comfortable but a lot of people do it everyday) seem really weak, especially given the circumtances.
The price is what it is, really no way to avoid that. Upgrades on these economy fares just won't happen. So just fly with a combination of business and economy....
Last edited by RTW1; Jul 17, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Jul 17, 2012, 1:03 pm
#24
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,813
What I really don't get if you really want them to take the trip is that you dismiss the option of 2 people sitting in business and the other two in economy so easily.
Arguments as you want it to be a family trip (won't you be staying Germany together, it's only a few hours on the plane?) or that your boyfriend doesn't like to travel in Y (sure it's not really comfortable but a lot of people do it everyday) seem really weak, especially given the circumtances.
The price is what it is, really no way to avoid that. Upgrades on these economy fares just won't happen. So just fly with a combination of business and economy....
Arguments as you want it to be a family trip (won't you be staying Germany together, it's only a few hours on the plane?) or that your boyfriend doesn't like to travel in Y (sure it's not really comfortable but a lot of people do it everyday) seem really weak, especially given the circumtances.
The price is what it is, really no way to avoid that. Upgrades on these economy fares just won't happen. So just fly with a combination of business and economy....
But how dare you tell the OP something she doesn't want to hear?
