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Old Feb 26, 2017, 10:31 pm
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Crew rest area for take off ?

Just flown back on a KL777-300 and witnessed the following.

Once the doors were closed, and during an air traffic "pause", 2 tall blond (think off duty cabin crew) ladies were escorted to the front galley.

The 1st officer appeared from the flight deck, and securely closed the curtain to WBC.

20 seconds later, the girls were gone, and the curtain re-opened before the 1st officer returned to his desk.

I can only assume one of 2 things. The first, is that the girls spent taxi / take off and the rest of the flight up in the crew rest bunks, OR the 1st officer is in the wrong career, and should be performing "I will now make the lady disappear before your very eyes" tricks on stage.

Is it approved, a company SOP or even legal to be strapped into a bunk for take off ? I would have thought at a "high risk" part of the flight, being up there would slow down at the very least your escape ?
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Old Feb 26, 2017, 11:53 pm
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I would think strapped into a bunk would be safer than standing during turbulence, which I'm sure everyone has read about.
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 12:25 am
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Not sure about the 777, but I know the 787 flight crew rest has a seat that can be occupied for take off/landing.
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 12:35 am
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I'm talking about the above ceiling rest area, where these two ladies disappeared to, surely there are no seats up there ?
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by tezzer
I'm talking about the above ceiling rest area, where these two ladies disappeared to, surely there are no seats up there ?
Some airlines do have seats up there.
A quick google search brings up this :

http://airchive.com/html/airplanes-a...est-1jpg/26375

Which does show seating up there...
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 1:58 am
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Even if there are seats, that still begs the question whether they may be occupied for take-off and landing.

I cannot imagine that the answer is yes, given the time criteria for evacuation.

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Old Feb 27, 2017, 4:32 am
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Originally Posted by johan rebel
Even if there are seats, that still begs the question whether they may be occupied for take-off and landing.

I cannot imagine that the answer is yes, given the time criteria for evacuation.

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Well I know on the 787 they can be used, however the door to the crew rest area needs to be open during take off and landing if its seat is being used.
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by tezzer
Just flown back on a KL777-300 and witnessed the following.

Once the doors were closed, and during an air traffic "pause", 2 tall blond (think off duty cabin crew) ladies were escorted to the front galley.

The 1st officer appeared from the flight deck, and securely closed the curtain to WBC.

20 seconds later, the girls were gone, and the curtain re-opened before the 1st officer returned to his desk.

I can only assume one of 2 things. The first, is that the girls spent taxi / take off and the rest of the flight up in the crew rest bunks, OR the 1st officer is in the wrong career, and should be performing "I will now make the lady disappear before your very eyes" tricks on stage.

Is it approved, a company SOP or even legal to be strapped into a bunk for take off ? I would have thought at a "high risk" part of the flight, being up there would slow down at the very least your escape ?
AFAIK there is a CCR in front. only one 772 has it. If it's legal, don't think so. I do know they put staff/family/friends up there if there is no other seat available or those people are not to be put in WBC. This space also has seats besides 3 bunks.
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by Anne Smithson
AFAIK there is a CCR in front. only one 772 has it. If it's legal, don't think so. I do know they put staff/family/friends up there if there is no other seat available or those people are not to be put in WBC. This space also has seats besides 3 bunks.
Actually, all of the 777s have a forward crew rest, none of them have three bunks, and they all are certified for occupancy during takeoff and landing. Not that it's any of your business, though.
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 10:16 am
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Huh

Originally Posted by jb2008
Actually, all of the 777s have a forward crew rest, none of them have three bunks, and they all are certified for occupancy during takeoff and landing. Not that it's any of your business, though.

We'll pardon us for asking a question ! If I had wanted to then I would take it up with the FO, I was just intrigued by his obvious desire to cover his actions.
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by jb2008
Actually, all of the 777s have a forward crew rest, none of them have three bunks, and they all are certified for occupancy during takeoff and landing. Not that it's any of your business, though.
Yeah i knew i was off somewhere, thanks for the information.
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by tezzer
We'll pardon us for asking a question ! If I had wanted to then I would take it up with the FO, I was just intrigued by his obvious desire to cover his actions.
How was he covering his actions?

How else is he supposed to put 2 people into the crew rest area jumpseats?
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Old Feb 27, 2017, 9:08 pm
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I've noticed that they close a curtain before entering the cockpit with refreshments. I'm not sure if that's because of lights on night fights or to stop nosy people seeing whats happening.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 12:46 pm
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OP, is this post serious?

Responders, is this post serious?
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 2:07 pm
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Why wouldn't it be ?
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