JetBlue 1416 LGB-AUS: Emergency Landing at LGB
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1945476
This is serious smoke based on the pictures. I would go ballistic when I hear the Captain cancelled emergency evac. This is totally irresponsible of the Captain. Just because you don't see fire blazing outside the engines doesn't mean there aren't any fires. Wasn't there a Middle Eastern airline a few years back landed without incident and the Captain also didn't order evac thinking the issue is minor, only to have fire consumed the plane in a matter of seconds and almost everyone died. With smoke and fire you always err on the side of caution.
This is serious smoke based on the pictures. I would go ballistic when I hear the Captain cancelled emergency evac. This is totally irresponsible of the Captain. Just because you don't see fire blazing outside the engines doesn't mean there aren't any fires. Wasn't there a Middle Eastern airline a few years back landed without incident and the Captain also didn't order evac thinking the issue is minor, only to have fire consumed the plane in a matter of seconds and almost everyone died. With smoke and fire you always err on the side of caution.
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On the ATC Recording, the pilot asks the tower if any smoke is coming out of the engine. Tower says no, and pilot says something to the effect of ok we're going to cancel the evacuation. Tower comes back and says people are already coming down the slide at the rear of the airplane.
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The CNN article is trash (not surprising for CNN). They quote someone as saying smoke was so thick that he couldnt see the person next to him and was wondering when accident masks would be deployed. I saw a video from inside the cabin after masks were deployed with at least 4 rows ahead visible. Guy taking the video was smiling and waving at the camera.
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Since it was an engine failure a more logical (although equally irrational) choice would be to avoid boarding any of the other aircraft that use the same engine family (which covers many more aircraft than the A320).
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Contrary to what some have posted, the engine failure did not occur at the most critical point. Instead, it occurred in the climb which is much different than had it happened on the takeoff roll (i.e. V1 cut).
Additionally, I wouldn't hastily pass judgement about what the captain should or should not have done. Keep in mind that passengers often sustain injuries during evacuations, so if the flight crew determines that an evacuation is not necessary, why risk injury? I don't know all the circumstances surrounding this incident, so I'm just saying that people shouldn't be so quick to judge.
Furthermore, I hate how the media (and uninformed people) keep saying that an engine exploded (implying an uncontained engine failure that would involve a fan/turbine/compressor blade separation that passes through the engine cowling). If the engine had truly exploded, they would have had much bigger issues.
Additionally, I wouldn't hastily pass judgement about what the captain should or should not have done. Keep in mind that passengers often sustain injuries during evacuations, so if the flight crew determines that an evacuation is not necessary, why risk injury? I don't know all the circumstances surrounding this incident, so I'm just saying that people shouldn't be so quick to judge.
Furthermore, I hate how the media (and uninformed people) keep saying that an engine exploded (implying an uncontained engine failure that would involve a fan/turbine/compressor blade separation that passes through the engine cowling). If the engine had truly exploded, they would have had much bigger issues.
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On the ATC Recording, the pilot asks the tower if any smoke is coming out of the engine. Tower says no, and pilot says something to the effect of ok we're going to cancel the evacuation. Tower comes back and says people are already coming down the slide at the rear of the airplane.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1945476
This is serious smoke based on the pictures. I would go ballistic when I hear the Captain cancelled emergency evac. This is totally irresponsible of the Captain. Just because you don't see fire blazing outside the engines doesn't mean there aren't any fires. Wasn't there a Middle Eastern airline a few years back landed without incident and the Captain also didn't order evac thinking the issue is minor, only to have fire consumed the plane in a matter of seconds and almost everyone died. With smoke and fire you always err on the side of caution.
This is serious smoke based on the pictures. I would go ballistic when I hear the Captain cancelled emergency evac. This is totally irresponsible of the Captain. Just because you don't see fire blazing outside the engines doesn't mean there aren't any fires. Wasn't there a Middle Eastern airline a few years back landed without incident and the Captain also didn't order evac thinking the issue is minor, only to have fire consumed the plane in a matter of seconds and almost everyone died. With smoke and fire you always err on the side of caution.
I'm not sure why you feel the captain was reckless. Using the emergency slides almost always results in injuries. Bringing air stairs to the plane would have worked perfectly fine.
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See "bleed air." The "smoke" being reported may be oil or hydraulic fluid heated past its normal operating temperature and drawn into the cabin.
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No one can tell the pax what nasties are in the smoke in the plane, four rows of visibility or not. Plus you have the oxygen masks deployed in a potential fire situation. In such a situation I'm headed as fast as I can for the exit - I'll take my chances on an evac injury over just sitting there and hoping a sudden fire doesn't break out.
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Maybe this debris will help. http://ktla.com/2014/09/19/faa-to-in...in-long-beach/
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No one can tell the pax what nasties are in the smoke in the plane, four rows of visibility or not. Plus you have the oxygen masks deployed in a potential fire situation. In such a situation I'm headed as fast as I can for the exit - I'll take my chances on an evac injury over just sitting there and hoping a sudden fire doesn't break out.
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Maybe this debris will help. http://ktla.com/2014/09/19/faa-to-in...in-long-beach/