Dinner in Shinagawa - suggestions?
#31
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Also interested in dinner restaurants in the Shinagawa area. Anything else new? Brew pubs, western food (if feeling home-sick), etc. The only rotary sushi chain restaurant I've eaten at was Genki sushi. She liked it--we ate at one in Honolulu. I'm not a sushi guy--I go for chicken (breast meat, not the other bits), rice, gyoza, miso soup, beef nagima, etc. Staying at the IC Strings part of the week. Possibly at the Prince Sakura Tower Tokyo Autograph Collection later in the week (have a second reservation there in case my wife and I don't like the IC Strings). Both hotels seem to be equidistant from Shinagawa Station, just one on the east side, one on the west IIRC.
#32
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15 minutes walk from your hotel:
https://www.tysons.jp/tyharbor/en/
https://www.tysons.jp/tyharbor/en/
#33
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How about Tsubame Grill? Hamburg is a classic japanese dish. It seems most Americans have not heard of it, but I'm certain most Westerners would love it.
https://tabelog.com/en/tokyo/A1314/A131403/13001545/
Sakura Tower is great btw. Don't let the Prince (= mediocre) name fool you. It's a very nice, peaceful hotel with a nice garden (shared with two other Prince hotels which are not as nice).
https://tabelog.com/en/tokyo/A1314/A131403/13001545/
Sakura Tower is great btw. Don't let the Prince (= mediocre) name fool you. It's a very nice, peaceful hotel with a nice garden (shared with two other Prince hotels which are not as nice).
#34
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There's a new craft-beer bar and retail shop called Antenna America inside the new food court at the Atre shopping mall connected to Shinagawa Station. It's inside a food court so it gets kind of noisy there, but it's a decent place to grab a beer if you're in the neighborhood and you can get cans and bottles to go.
#35
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How about Tsubame Grill? Hamburg is a classic japanese dish. It seems most Americans have not heard of it, but I'm certain most Westerners would love it.
https://tabelog.com/en/tokyo/A1314/A131403/13001545/
Sakura Tower is great btw. Don't let the Prince (= mediocre) name fool you. It's a very nice, peaceful hotel with a nice garden (shared with two other Prince hotels which are not as nice).
https://tabelog.com/en/tokyo/A1314/A131403/13001545/
Sakura Tower is great btw. Don't let the Prince (= mediocre) name fool you. It's a very nice, peaceful hotel with a nice garden (shared with two other Prince hotels which are not as nice).
Hamburg which is an abbreviation of the word Hamburger because they love abbreviating words. In addition to describing the dish served without a bun and accompanied by veg or rice, it is also used to describe the product at hamburger places by those ordering although it may say the whole katakana a version on the shop menu. (e.g. when ordering you may hear: "ハンバーグ一つとフライドポテトのSサイズ。”)
#36
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How about Tsubame Grill? Hamburg is a classic japanese dish. It seems most Americans have not heard of it, but I'm certain most Westerners would love it.
Hamburg steaks were quite popular in the US during the 19th century, and in Germany as far back as the early 18th century. The name apparently comes from the city of Hamburg, and the hamburger (sandwich) was an evolution of the original Hamburg steak.
The dish became very popular in Japan during the 1960s, and it's one of the staples of yoshoku cuisine along with fried-rice omelettes, cabbage rolls and hashed rice.
#37
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I never really appreciated Hamburg steaks until a year or so ago, when I traveled around to numerous restaurants researching the best Hamburg steaks in town for a book project. I do like Tsubame Kitchen's version - it's like a fattier, juicier, more umami-rich meatloaf basically, and there are a few different options for gravy. (Vimon, Limelight and Will also do very nice versions.)
Hamburg steaks were quite popular in the US during the 19th century, and in Germany as far back as the early 18th century. The name apparently comes from the city of Hamburg, and the hamburger (sandwich) was an evolution of the original Hamburg steak.
The dish became very popular in Japan during the 1960s, and it's one of the staples of yoshoku cuisine along with fried-rice omelettes, cabbage rolls and hashed rice.
Hamburg steaks were quite popular in the US during the 19th century, and in Germany as far back as the early 18th century. The name apparently comes from the city of Hamburg, and the hamburger (sandwich) was an evolution of the original Hamburg steak.
The dish became very popular in Japan during the 1960s, and it's one of the staples of yoshoku cuisine along with fried-rice omelettes, cabbage rolls and hashed rice.
If you are near the Hills sometime at lunch, 37 Steakhouse does a quite decent one too. And I know an FTer who works nearby ;-)
#39
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Interesting. I've had meatloaf in the US, but I never drew a connection to hamburg. I've never been a fan of US meatloaf, whereas I grew up eating Ishii hamburg and homemade ones at home and always liked those. Hamburgs as I know them have richer flavor yet does not feel heavy afterwards and have rather different texture than the so-called meatloaf in the US. I don't know if it's because they put more veggies and breadcrumbs in it or there's just more umami-rich ingredients. Plus it's the accompanying sauce that takes the hamburg to another level (typically demiglace sauce or sweet wafuu sauce). I too like Tsubame Grill.
#40
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Interesting. I've had meatloaf in the US, but I never drew a connection to hamburg. I've never been a fan of US meatloaf, whereas I grew up eating Ishii hamburg and homemade ones at home and always liked those. Hamburgs as I know them have richer flavor yet does not feel heavy afterwards and have rather different texture than the so-called meatloaf in the US. I don't know if it's because they put more veggies and breadcrumbs in it or there's just more umami-rich ingredients. Plus it's the accompanying sauce that takes the hamburg to another level (typically demiglace sauce or sweet wafuu sauce). I too like Tsubame Grill.
#41
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That all makes sense. We are all used to the concept that we grew up with, whether it's meatloaf in the US or hamburg in Jpn. I'll be honest, I've only had meatloaf a handful of times because it hasn't appealed to me due to its size, shape, appearance, sauce and/or probably pre(mis)conceived ideas. Maybe I will try meatloaf again one of these days and then realize that it's similar to hamburg and enjoy it.
I will say that hamburg is likely far more prevalent in Jpn than meatloaf is in the US. In addition to multiple Japanese chains dedicated to hamburg (Tsubame Grill, Bikkuri Donkey, Bronco Billy), you will find hamburg on the menu of every single family restaurant chain and is one of the more common items in konbini bentos, ekibens and especially kids' set menus.
I will say that hamburg is likely far more prevalent in Jpn than meatloaf is in the US. In addition to multiple Japanese chains dedicated to hamburg (Tsubame Grill, Bikkuri Donkey, Bronco Billy), you will find hamburg on the menu of every single family restaurant chain and is one of the more common items in konbini bentos, ekibens and especially kids' set menus.
#42
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I will say that hamburg is likely far more prevalent in Jpn than meatloaf is in the US. In addition to multiple Japanese chains dedicated to hamburg (Tsubame Grill, Bikkuri Donkey, Bronco Billy), you will find hamburg on the menu of every single family restaurant chain and is one of the more common items in konbini bentos, ekibens and especially kids' set menus.
#43
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When I worked in Shinagawa this was my good to spot (yakiniku, kind of hidden in the alley next to Yoshinoya): https://www.yelp.com/biz/%E7%84%BC%E...B8%AF%E5%8C%BA
#44
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There's a new craft-beer bar and retail shop called Antenna America inside the new food court at the Atre shopping mall connected to Shinagawa Station. It's inside a food court so it gets kind of noisy there, but it's a decent place to grab a beer if you're in the neighborhood and you can get cans and bottles to go.