Spire Upgrades @ HIs
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Spire Upgrades @ HIs
Complimentary upgrades are supposedly a benefit of Spire (subject to availability)... across various HIs in the UK I have been told:
- we don't upgrade to suites (I had booked 2nd highest room category)
- we only upgrade after revenue manager is sure he/she cannot sell the room (so basically you won't get one unless you check-in very late at night)
It seems that it's not a good idea to book any 'deluxe' or 'executive' (or whatever stupid names they call them - some hotels seem to have 10 different room categories) where there's nothing above them except a suite as you won't as a policy be upgraded.
- we don't upgrade to suites (I had booked 2nd highest room category)
- we only upgrade after revenue manager is sure he/she cannot sell the room (so basically you won't get one unless you check-in very late at night)
It seems that it's not a good idea to book any 'deluxe' or 'executive' (or whatever stupid names they call them - some hotels seem to have 10 different room categories) where there's nothing above them except a suite as you won't as a policy be upgraded.
#2
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: BA Exec Blue, IHG Spire, HHonor Gold, Accor Platinum.
Posts: 966
Sounds like you ask for an upgrade every time you check in?
I just check in and if i get an upgrade\or not so be it.
A room is a room especially when travelling solo for work.
And if I'm on holiday and I wanted the suite-I'd book it.
I just check in and if i get an upgrade\or not so be it.
A room is a room especially when travelling solo for work.
And if I'm on holiday and I wanted the suite-I'd book it.
#3
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Although I haven't stayed at any HI's in the UK, I have stayed at a few in EU / US / China and have pretty much always been upgraded to their biggest rooms.
#4
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Now I avoid any Holiday Inns if there is one similar priced HIX or slightly higher priced CP nearby. Holiday Inns are becoming less relevant when CP upped its offerings and HIX offered better value.
The only way I can see Holiday Inn become my first choice again is if free breakfast is guaranteed for Spire members.
#5
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Complimentary upgrades are supposedly a benefit of Spire (subject to availability)... across various HIs in the UK I have been told:
- we don't upgrade to suites (I had booked 2nd highest room category)
- we only upgrade after revenue manager is sure he/she cannot sell the room (so basically you won't get one unless you check-in very late at night)
It seems that it's not a good idea to book any 'deluxe' or 'executive' (or whatever stupid names they call them - some hotels seem to have 10 different room categories) where there's nothing above them except a suite as you won't as a policy be upgraded.
- we don't upgrade to suites (I had booked 2nd highest room category)
- we only upgrade after revenue manager is sure he/she cannot sell the room (so basically you won't get one unless you check-in very late at night)
It seems that it's not a good idea to book any 'deluxe' or 'executive' (or whatever stupid names they call them - some hotels seem to have 10 different room categories) where there's nothing above them except a suite as you won't as a policy be upgraded.
#6
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Platinum Ambassador
Posts: 32
But i've never had any such problems in Europe, even as Gold i was always upgraded.
#7
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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In terms of HIs in the UK, I have been in some excellent ones recently (Manchester, Watford, Birmingham, Bristol), often much better than CPs, many of which aren't worth the extra money... Hotel Indigo on the other hand...
#8
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Indeed - which is why now on the occasions, I have mentioned it, in the end I have been upgraded to a suite / higher room category... what's the point of loyalty if you aren't rewarded as such?
#10
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Somewhere in Europe
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Hotel Room Upgrades for Platinum Elite and Spire Elite Members: Platinum Elite and Spire Elite members will be offered a complimentary upgrade, as determined by the hotel, which might include rooms on higher floors, corner rooms, newly renovated rooms, or rooms with preferred views. The upgrade will be offered at time of check-in, based on availability, and will only apply to the member's personal guest room. The hotel is not required to upgrade members to suites or specialty rooms. Upgrade benefits will not apply to rooms booked as a Reward Night reservation.
#11
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Indeed this appears to be the case - makes booking the room below a suite (where they have them available) completely pointless... in any case, both hotels where this happened to me had nothing else available except Deluxe and then a suite, but clearly this then stops you from getting an upgrade.
However, T&Cs are silly - the point about it being up to the revenue manager applied when I booked a standard room and was asking about an upgrade to an Exec room (next category up) and not even to a junior suite or suite... they said they won't unless they 'cannot sell the room'...
However, T&Cs are silly - the point about it being up to the revenue manager applied when I booked a standard room and was asking about an upgrade to an Exec room (next category up) and not even to a junior suite or suite... they said they won't unless they 'cannot sell the room'...
#12
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Indeed this appears to be the case - makes booking the room below a suite (where they have them available) completely pointless... in any case, both hotels where this happened to me had nothing else available except Deluxe and then a suite, but clearly this then stops you from getting an upgrade.
However, T&Cs are silly - the point about it being up to the revenue manager applied when I booked a standard room and was asking about an upgrade to an Exec room (next category up) and not even to a junior suite or suite... they said they won't unless they 'cannot sell the room'...
However, T&Cs are silly - the point about it being up to the revenue manager applied when I booked a standard room and was asking about an upgrade to an Exec room (next category up) and not even to a junior suite or suite... they said they won't unless they 'cannot sell the room'...
As has been pointed out they do not have to upgrade you.
#13
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#14
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Somewhere in Europe
Posts: 3,362
And there lies one of the problems.
How do any of us know that IHG don't class an exec room as a speciality room?
Unless I've missed it somewhere there is nothing in the terms and conditions which actually describes what a speciality room actually is so therefore it can be anything bar a standard room.
IHG descriptions of an upgrade include corner rooms, rooms with a view etc but at absolutely no point does any upgrade description or term include the words:-
CATEGORY or GUARANTEED
So yes unfortunately you are completely at the mercy of the Revenue Manager and if she/he can sell it or even think they can there is not a cat in hells chance we will get it.
How do any of us know that IHG don't class an exec room as a speciality room?
Unless I've missed it somewhere there is nothing in the terms and conditions which actually describes what a speciality room actually is so therefore it can be anything bar a standard room.
IHG descriptions of an upgrade include corner rooms, rooms with a view etc but at absolutely no point does any upgrade description or term include the words:-
CATEGORY or GUARANTEED
So yes unfortunately you are completely at the mercy of the Revenue Manager and if she/he can sell it or even think they can there is not a cat in hells chance we will get it.
#15
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Complimentary upgrades are supposedly a benefit of Spire (subject to availability)... across various HIs in the UK I have been told:
- we don't upgrade to suites (I had booked 2nd highest room category)
- we only upgrade after revenue manager is sure he/she cannot sell the room (so basically you won't get one unless you check-in very late at night)
It seems that it's not a good idea to book any 'deluxe' or 'executive' (or whatever stupid names they call them - some hotels seem to have 10 different room categories) where there's nothing above them except a suite as you won't as a policy be upgraded.
- we don't upgrade to suites (I had booked 2nd highest room category)
- we only upgrade after revenue manager is sure he/she cannot sell the room (so basically you won't get one unless you check-in very late at night)
It seems that it's not a good idea to book any 'deluxe' or 'executive' (or whatever stupid names they call them - some hotels seem to have 10 different room categories) where there's nothing above them except a suite as you won't as a policy be upgraded.
Plus the room could even then go to another guest, elite/repeating-guest not yourself.
Alas IHG Hotel Suites/Speciality-Rooms are excluded from elite foc upgrades in the IHG t+c's, and terms even say upgrade does not need be a room category upgrade but can be nicer room (defining nicer as ... high floor / corner room / refurbed room / nicer view ... you get the picture).
HI's in Europe have very few suites (sometimes none), with top room being an exec room. If you book an exec or even junior-suite you can not expect an upgrade. That doesn't mean that some IHG hotels will not "generously" upgrade to a suite if free, though is rarer in Europe.
Basically you have to research/know your hotels policy regards elite upgrades before you stay and book accordingly. As often stated if you really need a particular room type eg suite/lounge then book that in the first place.
The associated "IHG Group Stay" FT page has threads for many hotels, and FTers shoud report good/bad stays.
I ignore IHG's site own hotel guests reports as hotels weed ot bad feedbacks which don't allow to post so appear rosy+good and that is not a totally reliable view.
However read the threads to see if any guests report upgrades and to from/to which rooms.
When I post tripadvisor reviews I try to remember to say upgraded as a Spire/IHG-Elite if hotel upgrades me... although I kind of stopped reporting all new/first-time hotel stays a year ago.
t+c's
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Hotel Room Upgrades for Platinum Elite and Spire Elite Members:
Platinum Elite and Spire Elite members will be offered a complimentary upgrade, as determined by the hotel, which might include rooms on higher floors, corner rooms, newly renovated rooms, or rooms with preferred views. The upgrade will be offered at time of check-in, based on availability, and will only apply to the member's personal guest room. The hotel is not required to upgrade members to suites or specialty rooms. Upgrade benefits will not apply to rooms booked as a Reward Night reservation.