What just changed for Ambassadors ?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Great Britain
Programs: Air: QR Silver. BA Silver Emirates, Hotels: CC Gold, IHG Spire AMB, Hilton Diamond.
Posts: 1,490
What just changed for Ambassadors ?
What's just changed for Ambassador members ?
I'm currently IHG Plat and am contemplating getting Ambassador status due to a couple of upcoming stays at ICs in Thailand and probably in Vietnam too.
Can anyone explain how these changes effect the benefits I would/could have got prior vs post this change ?
I usually pay for the lower-end catagories of rooms.
I am also particularly interested in the IC Danang Sun Resort and how these changes effect how I'd be treated there if I had Amb & Plat vs just IHG Plat.
Poor timing it seems :-(
I'm currently IHG Plat and am contemplating getting Ambassador status due to a couple of upcoming stays at ICs in Thailand and probably in Vietnam too.
Can anyone explain how these changes effect the benefits I would/could have got prior vs post this change ?
I usually pay for the lower-end catagories of rooms.
I am also particularly interested in the IC Danang Sun Resort and how these changes effect how I'd be treated there if I had Amb & Plat vs just IHG Plat.
Poor timing it seems :-(
#2
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Perth, WA, Australia
Programs: QF Gold, VA Plat, IHG Plat Amb, LCAH Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,847
Not that I have looked into the changes in much depth, but thought most of the changes were around titghtening up rules around upgrades (more exclusions related to suites).
All the other benefits were still there. If you typically book a base room, I wouldn't have thought there were many changes that would affect you.
All the other benefits were still there. If you typically book a base room, I wouldn't have thought there were many changes that would affect you.
#3
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Amsterdam, Asia, UK
Programs: IHG RA (Spire), HH Diamond, MR Platinum, SQ Gold, KLM Gold, BAEC Gold
Posts: 5,072
What's just changed for Ambassador members ?
I'm currently IHG Plat and am contemplating getting Ambassador status due to a couple of upcoming stays at ICs in Thailand and probably in Vietnam too.
Can anyone explain how these changes effect the benefits I would/could have got prior vs post this change ?
I usually pay for the lower-end catagories of rooms.
I am also particularly interested in the IC Danang Sun Resort and how these changes effect how I'd be treated there if I had Amb & Plat vs just IHG Plat.
Poor timing it seems :-(
I'm currently IHG Plat and am contemplating getting Ambassador status due to a couple of upcoming stays at ICs in Thailand and probably in Vietnam too.
Can anyone explain how these changes effect the benefits I would/could have got prior vs post this change ?
I usually pay for the lower-end catagories of rooms.
I am also particularly interested in the IC Danang Sun Resort and how these changes effect how I'd be treated there if I had Amb & Plat vs just IHG Plat.
Poor timing it seems :-(
No real difference to Ambassador just 2x areas. Anouncement was of more interest to RA's regards AMEA (excluding greater China) changes
1)Restated IC Club Lounge access is not given foc to Ambassadors
2)As note more suite exclusions added. Won't affect Ambassador who doesn't book a low level suite
If booking a suite an Ambassador may find no further upgrade due to exclusion list
#4
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Bangkok/Singapore
Programs: Frantic Hilton/Marriott runs
Posts: 929
The big changes:
- Officially no entitlement to lounge access even if you are upgraded to club floor rooms
- The exceptions to the suite upgrade has increased significantly.
- Officially no entitlement to lounge access even if you are upgraded to club floor rooms
- The exceptions to the suite upgrade has increased significantly.
#5
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Great Britain
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Shame about the lounge access, that would be a big perk at the IC Danang :-(
Looks like the $200 Ambassador fee would only really be for the free night certificate.
#7
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Japan
Posts: 5,578
[QUOTE=Sisyphus1carus;27242447
Looks like the $200 Ambassador fee would only really be for the free night certificate.[/QUOTE]
Watch out, the AMBWeekend rate often is higher than the regular rate, savings are greatly overrated.
Looks like the $200 Ambassador fee would only really be for the free night certificate.[/QUOTE]
Watch out, the AMBWeekend rate often is higher than the regular rate, savings are greatly overrated.
#8
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Location: MAN and LON
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#9
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Bloomington, IL
Programs: AA Plat, IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 60
I saw above that lounge doesn't come with your room even if upgraded to club level? If that is the one level, next room rate shown on the reservation website, you still don't get the lounge? I'm staying in San Francisco next weekend and I've booked the room rate right below club, so I was thinking that's likely what I'll get. I have in the past (I know things have changed though) booked below club at other properties and gotten club and the lounge access that comes with that.
If anyone has any thoughts, I'd be interested, but I suppose I'll find out next weekend too. I'll report back.
I wonder if this will still be the your mileage may vary deal, depending on the hotel and such.
The only time I paid for the lounge was in Hong Kong, but that was worth it - to me - just for the experience. Quite pricey, but so well done.
If anyone has any thoughts, I'd be interested, but I suppose I'll find out next weekend too. I'll report back.
I wonder if this will still be the your mileage may vary deal, depending on the hotel and such.
The only time I paid for the lounge was in Hong Kong, but that was worth it - to me - just for the experience. Quite pricey, but so well done.
#10
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ottawa
Programs: IC/AMB - Diamond Elite, AC E50K, AA, AM-Onyx, HH-Diamond, BW, Choice - Gold
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Here are the new Ambassador T&Cs issued on September 1, 2016:
https://www.ihg.com/intercontinental...rms-conditions
If upgraded to a club room, club access will only be given to members with Royal Ambassador status. That is a requirement of the program, otherwise, lounge access does not come with a room upgrade to Club room.
If the hotel wishes to grant this access, it is totally discretionary and there is no entitlement except as noted above, unless you actually pay for a club room with lounge access.
mxm135
https://www.ihg.com/intercontinental...rms-conditions
If upgraded to a club room, club access will only be given to members with Royal Ambassador status. That is a requirement of the program, otherwise, lounge access does not come with a room upgrade to Club room.
If the hotel wishes to grant this access, it is totally discretionary and there is no entitlement except as noted above, unless you actually pay for a club room with lounge access.
mxm135
#12
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Join Date: May 2014
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#13
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ottawa
Programs: IC/AMB - Diamond Elite, AC E50K, AA, AM-Onyx, HH-Diamond, BW, Choice - Gold
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Personally, I have never encountered an AWR greater than the BFR at any of the ICs that I have stayed at, including the Le Grand Paris, the Amstel, IC Bangkok, IC Sydney (Macquarrie), IC Williard, IC Clement (Monterey) or IC Century City (Los Angeles).
I have always considered that I have received value for the price I paid.
mxm135
#14
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Hilton Honors Diamond, IHG Spire, Marriott Titanium, Wyndham Diamond, Caesar's Diamond
Posts: 536
The Ambassador Weekend Rate (AWR) is usually equal to the 'Best Flexible Rate (BFR)' at the time of booking. It is not the 'Best Available Rate (BAR).
Personally, I have never encountered an AWR greater than the BFR at any of the ICs that I have stayed at, including the Le Grand Paris, the Amstel, IC Bangkok, IC Sydney (Macquarrie), IC Williard, IC Clement (Monterey) or IC Century City (Los Angeles).
I have always considered that I have received value for the price I paid.
mxm135
Personally, I have never encountered an AWR greater than the BFR at any of the ICs that I have stayed at, including the Le Grand Paris, the Amstel, IC Bangkok, IC Sydney (Macquarrie), IC Williard, IC Clement (Monterey) or IC Century City (Los Angeles).
I have always considered that I have received value for the price I paid.
mxm135
#15
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Bloomington, IL
Programs: AA Plat, IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 60
Yep, no lounge as others had stated. I get that it is not a benefit, but seems odd in the situation where there is a distinct room rate that has club and you book up to just before that, you don't get club included in a room you would otherwise (if you just booked that room rate). I get no free lounge on its own, but not when that happens to be your one level next room available. Probably be more straightforward if they just charged everyone except RAs. Doesn't matter what I think of course, good to know what to expect though. I won't book up to that any longer. I did see one case where the next level with club was a suite, so I guess you can still get something in some cases.
Thanks for helping me understand.
Thanks for helping me understand.