Infant one-way versus two-way unused return, homeland security?!
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Infant one-way versus two-way unused return, homeland security?!
I'm flying from Toronto->JFK->Spain and then returning Oslo->Heathrow->Toronto. I found a cheap American-BA multicity itinerary. (One itinerary for all three flights.) I'm flying with my infant son (< 2 years old), meeting my parents in Spain, and leaving my son with them. I'm then going to return to Toronto (without my son). My parents will then return with him a few weeks later.
My travel agent tried to book my round trip on American and then add an infant one way (just the Toronto->JFK->Spain portion with American). She apparently ran into some trouble doing this. (Should I have expected this?) She then inquired about adding him to all legs and they warned that there would be some "homeland security" problems if I showed up to a return leg without my infant son.
Sounds like nanny-state nonsense. Anyone heard about something like this? Are they going to Heathrow->Toronto flight if I don't show up with my son on the Oslo->Heathrow flights? OR cancel just his portion (which would be ok since he's not flying with me back).
My travel agent tried to book my round trip on American and then add an infant one way (just the Toronto->JFK->Spain portion with American). She apparently ran into some trouble doing this. (Should I have expected this?) She then inquired about adding him to all legs and they warned that there would be some "homeland security" problems if I showed up to a return leg without my infant son.
Sounds like nanny-state nonsense. Anyone heard about something like this? Are they going to Heathrow->Toronto flight if I don't show up with my son on the Oslo->Heathrow flights? OR cancel just his portion (which would be ok since he's not flying with me back).
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There won't be any "homeland security" problems. It is just nonsense. The officer won't even see your flight booking so he wouldn't know. You may have one or two other issues which you may want to plan for:
1. Travelling without your wife/child's mother often raises flags. Always with Canadian officials, occasionally with US official, and sometimes with Europeans. I know it's complete BS, but you may with to have a (ugh) notarised letter co-signed by wife/mother acknowledging/allowing this.
2. As above, but in the case of your parents bringing him back. May want to have a paper that says it's clear with the two parents.
(Edit to suit your domestic situation which of course I don't know.)
1. Travelling without your wife/child's mother often raises flags. Always with Canadian officials, occasionally with US official, and sometimes with Europeans. I know it's complete BS, but you may with to have a (ugh) notarised letter co-signed by wife/mother acknowledging/allowing this.
2. As above, but in the case of your parents bringing him back. May want to have a paper that says it's clear with the two parents.
(Edit to suit your domestic situation which of course I don't know.)
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There won't be any "homeland security" problems. It is just nonsense. The officer won't even see your flight booking so he wouldn't know. You may have one or two other issues which you may want to plan for:
1. Travelling without your wife/child's mother often raises flags. Always with Canadian officials, occasionally with US official, and sometimes with Europeans. I know it's complete BS, but you may with to have a (ugh) notarised letter co-signed by wife/mother acknowledging/allowing this.
2. As above, but in the case of your parents bringing him back. May want to have a paper that says it's clear with the two parents.
(Edit to suit your domestic situation which of course I don't know.)
1. Travelling without your wife/child's mother often raises flags. Always with Canadian officials, occasionally with US official, and sometimes with Europeans. I know it's complete BS, but you may with to have a (ugh) notarised letter co-signed by wife/mother acknowledging/allowing this.
2. As above, but in the case of your parents bringing him back. May want to have a paper that says it's clear with the two parents.
(Edit to suit your domestic situation which of course I don't know.)
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How is what you posted any different from what I wrote? No US CBP agent will have immediate access to OP's travel details so there's no automatic feedback they can question. The suggested paperwork addresses the situation when there is an irregularity that needs to be clarified.
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How is what you posted any different from what I wrote? No US CBP agent will have immediate access to OP's travel details so there's no automatic feedback they can question. The suggested paperwork addresses the situation when there is an irregularity that needs to be clarified.
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I don't see what the issue with U.S. CBP or Homeland Security is. The only time this itinerary touches the U.S. is outbound, during the JFK connection, at which point the child will be present so no issues can arise. The return trip could potentially involve the security organizations of Norway, the U.K. and Canada, but U.S. concerns and organizations are a total non-issue.