Avios or Club Premier AM
Jan 27, 2016, 2:15 pm
#1
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Avios or Club Premier AM
Hi,
I am trying to decide where to start accumulating points in order to get a better value for an award flight.
I would be looking for an award MEX BUD basically and at least for Club Premier Aeromexico flight I would need 90k miles+taxes.
I am not a BA flyer, but as far as I could investigate for the same route I would need less avios points. Do not know exactly but should be about 55k+taxes.
Which points are more valuable given my intended award? Avios vs Club Premier?
Thanks
I am trying to decide where to start accumulating points in order to get a better value for an award flight.
I would be looking for an award MEX BUD basically and at least for Club Premier Aeromexico flight I would need 90k miles+taxes.
I am not a BA flyer, but as far as I could investigate for the same route I would need less avios points. Do not know exactly but should be about 55k+taxes.
Which points are more valuable given my intended award? Avios vs Club Premier?
Thanks
Jan 27, 2016, 3:16 pm
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BA imposes very high cash surcharges (which are separate from government-imposed "taxes") on TATL award flights, unless you are flying on AB (no surcharges) or EI (low surcharges). Neither carrier serves MEX. To get around BA's high surcharges, you could open and fund an Iberia Plus account, and then transfer BAEC Avios to Iberia Plus, which has more modest surcharges for redemptions on IB metal. But IB only serves BUD seasonally, so you'd have to investigate whether the service operates when you want to fly.
If you can get a cheap flight to Varadero, Cuba, you could redeem BA Avios for VRA-TXL-BUD on AB -- with no surcharges.
Does AM Club Premier assess surcharges on long-haul redemptions?
BA imposes very high cash surcharges (which are separate from government-imposed "taxes") on TATL award flights, unless you are flying on AB (no surcharges) or EI (low surcharges). Neither carrier serves MEX. To get around BA's high surcharges, you could open and fund an Iberia Plus account, and then transfer BAEC Avios to Iberia Plus, which has more modest surcharges for redemptions on IB metal. But IB only serves BUD seasonally, so you'd have to investigate whether the service operates when you want to fly.
If you can get a cheap flight to Varadero, Cuba, you could redeem BA Avios for VRA-TXL-BUD on AB -- with no surcharges.
Does AM Club Premier assess surcharges on long-haul redemptions?
Jan 27, 2016, 3:49 pm
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How modest compared to BA? I keep seeing this mentioned around the forums and I've been meaning to ask.
Jan 27, 2016, 4:01 pm
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I think it's around 35 Euros per long-haul segment. Not sure if there is any surcharge anymore on intra-European segments.
Originally Posted by goldencondor
How modest compared to BA? I keep seeing this mentioned around the forums and I've been meaning to ask.
Jan 27, 2016, 4:06 pm
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Jan 27, 2016, 4:51 pm
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That is a good advice to transfer avios to IB acount.i am also seeing a huge difference between 45 k miled and 90k miles neccesary for this award...thus leaning towardsdeciding for avios acummulation
Additionaly both charge around 400 eur in surcharges on this route on a rt ticket
Additionaly both charge around 400 eur in surcharges on this route on a rt ticket
Jan 28, 2016, 1:59 am
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That is a good advice to transfer avios to IB acount.i am also seeing a huge difference between 45 k miled and 90k miles neccesary for this award...thus leaning towardsdeciding for avios acummulation
Additionaly both charge around 400 eur in surcharges on this route on a rt ticket
Additionaly both charge around 400 eur in surcharges on this route on a rt ticket
Jan 28, 2016, 2:14 am
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I am trying to decide where to start accumulating points in order to get a better value for an award flight.
I would be looking for an award MEX BUD basically and at least for Club Premier Aeromexico flight I would need 90k miles+taxes.
I am not a BA flyer, but as far as I could investigate for the same route I would need less avios points. Do not know exactly but should be about 55k+taxes.
Which points are more valuable given my intended award? Avios vs Club Premier?
I would be looking for an award MEX BUD basically and at least for Club Premier Aeromexico flight I would need 90k miles+taxes.
I am not a BA flyer, but as far as I could investigate for the same route I would need less avios points. Do not know exactly but should be about 55k+taxes.
Which points are more valuable given my intended award? Avios vs Club Premier?
How will you earn the miles/points/avios for this intended award?
A lot of airlines can get you to MEX BUD
http://www.wheretocredit.com/aeromexico
USA based airline ffp's tend to be more generous (status benefits/earn/burn/upgrades/award cost/award cash surcharges/expiry) compared to non USA based airline ffp’s (even after the recently announced changes to some USA ffp’s)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/infor...help-here.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...demptions.html
Jan 28, 2016, 8:24 am
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Actually I do not intend to fly One World airlines as I am a *A flyer.
However, I have a credit card which earns points that can be transferred either to Avios or to Aeromexico points.
Therefore just tried to get the best destination for these points...
Jan 28, 2016, 8:38 am
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Thanks, I will consider that.
Actually I do not intend to fly One World airlines as I am a *A flyer.
However, I have a credit card which earns points that can be transferred either to Avios or to Aeromexico points.
Therefore just tried to get the best destination for these points...
Actually I do not intend to fly One World airlines as I am a *A flyer.
However, I have a credit card which earns points that can be transferred either to Avios or to Aeromexico points.
Therefore just tried to get the best destination for these points...
I only found that out last week when someone on here mentioned it.
Feb 18, 2016, 11:17 am
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At this point I am still not decided about AM or BA crediting.
Does anybody have experience booking partner flights in these programs? which is more difficult/expensive?
1.Taxes are high on both,
2.mileage requirement higher on AM then BA.
Does anybody have experience booking partner flights in these programs? which is more difficult/expensive?
1.Taxes are high on both,
2.mileage requirement higher on AM then BA.
Feb 18, 2016, 8:16 pm
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Join both ffp's and search for an award.
However with some ffp's you need the ff miles before a search.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...demptions.html
Feb 18, 2016, 10:11 pm
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Time to have a good look at the award charts & award rules for both AM & BA and fully understands them.