New Civil Aviation Policy
Sep 12, 2016, 9:51 am
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New Civil Aviation Policy
I'm surprised I haven't seen any discussion about this here. From what I'm reading there seem to be a few major points.
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
2. 2500 rupee cap on one hour flights, with government subsidizing 80% of losses.
3. 100% foreign direct investment allowed in domestic airlines, with the exception of foreign airlines.
4. Open skies for countries more than 5000 km radium from Delhi
5. Cap on excess baggage fee to rs 100 per kg
6. Ticket cancellation fee can not exceed base fare + fuel surcharge
6. Credit card refunds to be received within 7 days, cash refunds immediately
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...cle8733389.ece
http://thewire.in/43160/modis-civil-...sial-520-rule/
http://www.livemint.com/Companies/Zg...nto-India.html
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report...ctures-2224044
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
2. 2500 rupee cap on one hour flights, with government subsidizing 80% of losses.
3. 100% foreign direct investment allowed in domestic airlines, with the exception of foreign airlines.
4. Open skies for countries more than 5000 km radium from Delhi
5. Cap on excess baggage fee to rs 100 per kg
6. Ticket cancellation fee can not exceed base fare + fuel surcharge
6. Credit card refunds to be received within 7 days, cash refunds immediately
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...cle8733389.ece
http://thewire.in/43160/modis-civil-...sial-520-rule/
http://www.livemint.com/Companies/Zg...nto-India.html
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report...ctures-2224044
Last edited by slickvik; Sep 12, 2016 at 9:59 am
Sep 12, 2016, 10:29 am
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I'm surprised I haven't seen any discussion about this here. From what I'm reading there seem to be a few major points.
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
2. 2500 rupee cap on one hour flights, with government subsidizing 80% of losses.
3. 100% foreign direct investment allowed in domestic airlines, with the exception of foreign airlines.
4. Open skies for countries more than 5000 km radium from Delhi
5. Cap on excess baggage fee to rs 100 per kg
6. Ticket cancellation fee can not exceed base fare + fuel surcharge
6. Credit card refunds to be received within 7 days, cash refunds immediately
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...cle8733389.ece
http://thewire.in/43160/modis-civil-...sial-520-rule/
http://www.livemint.com/Companies/Zg...nto-India.html
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report...ctures-2224044
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
2. 2500 rupee cap on one hour flights, with government subsidizing 80% of losses.
3. 100% foreign direct investment allowed in domestic airlines, with the exception of foreign airlines.
4. Open skies for countries more than 5000 km radium from Delhi
5. Cap on excess baggage fee to rs 100 per kg
6. Ticket cancellation fee can not exceed base fare + fuel surcharge
6. Credit card refunds to be received within 7 days, cash refunds immediately
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...cle8733389.ece
http://thewire.in/43160/modis-civil-...sial-520-rule/
http://www.livemint.com/Companies/Zg...nto-India.html
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report...ctures-2224044
Sep 12, 2016, 4:42 pm
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1. After seeing the Air Pegasus mess (selling tickets even when they have no planes) I think this makes perfect sense.
2. Subsidizing air travel? Seriously? Can't they think of better ways to screw my tax money?
2. Subsidizing air travel? Seriously? Can't they think of better ways to screw my tax money?
I'm surprised I haven't seen any discussion about this here. From what I'm reading there seem to be a few major points.
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
2. 2500 rupee cap on one hour flights, with government subsidizing 80% of losses.
3. 100% foreign direct investment allowed in domestic airlines, with the exception of foreign airlines.
4. Open skies for countries more than 5000 km radium from Delhi
5. Cap on excess baggage fee to rs 100 per kg
6. Ticket cancellation fee can not exceed base fare + fuel surcharge
6. Credit card refunds to be received within 7 days, cash refunds immediately
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...cle8733389.ece
http://thewire.in/43160/modis-civil-...sial-520-rule/
http://www.livemint.com/Companies/Zg...nto-India.html
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report...ctures-2224044
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
2. 2500 rupee cap on one hour flights, with government subsidizing 80% of losses.
3. 100% foreign direct investment allowed in domestic airlines, with the exception of foreign airlines.
4. Open skies for countries more than 5000 km radium from Delhi
5. Cap on excess baggage fee to rs 100 per kg
6. Ticket cancellation fee can not exceed base fare + fuel surcharge
6. Credit card refunds to be received within 7 days, cash refunds immediately
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...cle8733389.ece
http://thewire.in/43160/modis-civil-...sial-520-rule/
http://www.livemint.com/Companies/Zg...nto-India.html
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report...ctures-2224044
Sep 13, 2016, 2:22 am
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Sep 14, 2016, 2:50 pm
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0/20 rule: Should make the existing airlines happy as Vistara and Air Asia still have less than 10 aircraft.
Govt subsidizing losses on one hour flights ? Not a good idea. More money down the drain.
Excess baggage fee cap is a good one, is it good for international too or only domestic? UA/AF and some LH flights now charge $100 (Rs. 6700) for 23 kgs (for second bag) for most economy class fliers. This will go down to $35 per 23 kg bag.
Govt subsidizing losses on one hour flights ? Not a good idea. More money down the drain.
Excess baggage fee cap is a good one, is it good for international too or only domestic? UA/AF and some LH flights now charge $100 (Rs. 6700) for 23 kgs (for second bag) for most economy class fliers. This will go down to $35 per 23 kg bag.
Sep 14, 2016, 11:24 pm
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Excess baggage fee cap is a good one, is it good for international too or only domestic? UA/AF and some LH flights now charge $100 (Rs. 6700) for 23 kgs (for second bag) for most economy class fliers. This will go down to $35 per 23 kg bag.[/QUOTE]
Fine prints says only domestic that too for first 5 KG excess @Rs 100 per kg
Fine prints says only domestic that too for first 5 KG excess @Rs 100 per kg
Sep 15, 2016, 1:18 pm
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OP
New Civil Aviation Policy
I'm surprised I haven't seen any discussion about this here. From what I'm reading there seem to be a few major points.
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
END OP
The way I read it the 0/20 policy means that for every 5 planes an airline has it has to have 1 dedicated for domestic travel...
Am I reading this wrong?
New Civil Aviation Policy
I'm surprised I haven't seen any discussion about this here. From what I'm reading there seem to be a few major points.
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
END OP
The way I read it the 0/20 policy means that for every 5 planes an airline has it has to have 1 dedicated for domestic travel...
Am I reading this wrong?
Sep 15, 2016, 1:44 pm
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New Civil Aviation Policy
I'm surprised I haven't seen any discussion about this here. From what I'm reading there seem to be a few major points.
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
END OP
The way I read it the 0/20 policy means that for every 5 planes an airline has it has to have 1 dedicated for domestic travel...
Am I reading this wrong?
New Civil Aviation Policy
I'm surprised I haven't seen any discussion about this here. From what I'm reading there seem to be a few major points.
1. No more 5/20 rule. That being said, it is now 0/20, or 20% of aircraft must fly domestic, which means in reality it will still take years for new airlines to fly internationally, since it takes time to acquire 20 aircraft.
END OP
The way I read it the 0/20 policy means that for every 5 planes an airline has it has to have 1 dedicated for domestic travel...
Am I reading this wrong?
Sep 15, 2016, 1:47 pm
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US subsidizes remote routes to the extent of $200 Million a year under Essential Air Services program. Rumor has it one such route was subsidized $8,000 per seat, because politicians like regional jets to their towns and villages from DC.
If India wants to pay our consultants can lecture why subsidies are bad. Thank You.
If India wants to pay our consultants can lecture why subsidies are bad. Thank You.
Sep 16, 2016, 12:10 am
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On subsidizing flights to "regional" routes with duration less than one hour, I am not able to look up the reference but remember reading that there is certain criteria for a route to qualify as regional. Effectively, this is aimed at those airports which have been constructed with much investment but hardly witness any flights.
I feel this is a step in right direction as even today, apart from big airports which can be counted on fingertips, rest of them only have a couple of flights in morning and evening.
There is a massive population with resources to travel by flights but are being held back because the nearest airport is 200-300 kms away.
I feel this is a step in right direction as even today, apart from big airports which can be counted on fingertips, rest of them only have a couple of flights in morning and evening.
There is a massive population with resources to travel by flights but are being held back because the nearest airport is 200-300 kms away.
Sep 20, 2016, 9:53 am
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On subsidizing flights to "regional" routes with duration less than one hour, I am not able to look up the reference but remember reading that there is certain criteria for a route to qualify as regional. Effectively, this is aimed at those airports which have been constructed with much investment but hardly witness any flights.
I feel this is a step in right direction as even today, apart from big airports which can be counted on fingertips, rest of them only have a couple of flights in morning and evening.
There is a massive population with resources to travel by flights but are being held back because the nearest airport is 200-300 kms away.
I feel this is a step in right direction as even today, apart from big airports which can be counted on fingertips, rest of them only have a couple of flights in morning and evening.
There is a massive population with resources to travel by flights but are being held back because the nearest airport is 200-300 kms away.
I have had multiple colleagues asking why isn't routes like RAJ-BOM/AMD-PNQ/AMD-BOM still sell at more than Rs.2500 when there is a Government cap - and I find it amusing on our expectations!
+1+1 On Typical Modi PR Blitzkrieg too
Sep 20, 2016, 9:56 am
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Come on you AMD based Anti-national being !