Park Hyatt Siem Reap - 2013
May 2, 2013, 2:44 pm
#31
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Sent an email to the property and got a reply saying it will open in mid July and was offered a special opening rate of $365++. I think this price is a bit of a joke considering I am staying like 2 weeks after opening and given the price of competing properties such as the residence d'angkor.
May 2, 2013, 2:59 pm
#32
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On a more serious note--I frequently see newly-opened branded hotels charging exorbitant amounts in resort or exotic locations.
Marriott is especially guilty of this--even with their boring CY brand.
Try booking CY Santa Barbara or Kauai--the rate is around $250+ for very bland accommodations in far-from-optimal locations.
Do they actually get those rates?
Certainly not from me.
The good news is these properties often require significantly less points per night than one would expect given the revenue rates...
May 2, 2013, 6:39 pm
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I think if they expect to get $400 a night in Cambodia they are sorely mistaken regardless of how nice the hotel is.
I think if they expect to get $400 a night in Cambodia they are sorely mistaken regardless of how nice the hotel is.
May 2, 2013, 11:24 pm
#34
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I was quoted $325++ per night. Bear in mind, the property will have Virtuoso benefits with the property specific benefit of a complimentary dinner. Prices seem a little high but are in line with Raffles, Sofitel etc.
May 3, 2013, 1:25 am
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May 3, 2013, 4:02 am
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May 3, 2013, 5:09 am
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I think if they expect to get $400 a night in Cambodia they are sorely mistaken regardless of how nice the hotel is.
I think if they expect to get $400 a night in Cambodia they are sorely mistaken regardless of how nice the hotel is.
May 3, 2013, 6:21 am
#38
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A nearby example would be Luang Prabang, where in addition to Amantaka there are R&C and Orient Express properties have rates similar to PH Siem Reap.
Hotel de la Paix is a great fit for the Park Hyatt brand.
May 3, 2013, 6:34 am
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This is a hypothetical question, as Aman would never build in a subpar location. Amanresorts are able to command the rates they do because of their locations and the unparalleled overall experience they offer. In most Aman locations there is also very high demand for other high-end properties at lower price points from brands like Four Seasons, GHM, Park Hyatt, etc..
A nearby example would be Luang Prabang, where in addition to Amantaka there are R&C and Orient Express properties have rates similar to PH Siem Reap.
Hotel de la Paix is a great fit for the Park Hyatt brand.
A nearby example would be Luang Prabang, where in addition to Amantaka there are R&C and Orient Express properties have rates similar to PH Siem Reap.
Hotel de la Paix is a great fit for the Park Hyatt brand.
May 3, 2013, 7:09 am
#40
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Agreed, however I think the opening rates they are offering are the rates we can expect constantly so there is nothing "special" about them. Guests are always taking a risk staying in the first weeks after opening.. They are effectively the Guinea-pigs for refining service and F&B offerings so usually there are pretty decent opening rates.
I agree staying at a new property is risky. Opening rates can be low or very high. I often find that there is room for substantial negotiation when properties open with exorbitant rates.
May 3, 2013, 7:13 am
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By the way- if all the luxury hotels are sold out in Siem Reap or you don't want to spend that much money- the Hotel Victoria is a very nice 3.5* alternative with a great breakfast- not luxury but then again the price is usually less than $200 all in.
May 3, 2013, 9:22 am
#42
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May 3, 2013, 9:46 am
#43
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Well I guess I stand partly corrected. Still seems high to me. I mean, I remember seeing the PH Saigon for $130 a night before.
May 3, 2013, 4:59 pm
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sigh...i know. never mind.
sigh...i know. never mind.