What's a good compensation for bad stay?
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What's a good compensation for bad stay?
I had stayed over at the Stansted Hilton Airport hotel last night.
I had already given a brief outline here so didn't want to double post: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19504232-post33.html
But would like to add the following:
When discussing about the slow internet to the Duty Manager, I noticed that the phone at reception was ringing off the hook. There was one person on duty and she was 'busy' checking in someone. How much effort does it take to pick up the phone and ask the person to hold? What does she do? She calmly walks over to the phone that was ringing and then turned down the volume of the phone so that it wouldn't bother her !!
I was so shocked ! I looked over at the manager and asked if she saw it - and she didn't think it was unusual !!
When I came down for dinner, the same F&B manager saw me, but didn't offer anything other than "Table for one"?
I tried the wifi at the restaurant - it was also slow.. too slow for my VPN to even log on ! I missed a critical and important message due to this fact.
The little signboard at the hotel shuttle pick up at Stansted Airport said that one may charge the 2 quid bus fee to the room. Upon boarding the bus driver said no! Why have that on the sign when this is not possible. Thank goodness I had change!
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Anyway, upon check out, I did manage to speak to the hotel Manager, who offered to give me 20,000 points. Which I laughed off because that's not even enough to redeem a stay at this hotel which requires 35,000 points.
So what do you think is a fair compensation from this bad stay? Do you think I can ask for a "Be My Guest " certificate?
I had already given a brief outline here so didn't want to double post: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19504232-post33.html
But would like to add the following:
When discussing about the slow internet to the Duty Manager, I noticed that the phone at reception was ringing off the hook. There was one person on duty and she was 'busy' checking in someone. How much effort does it take to pick up the phone and ask the person to hold? What does she do? She calmly walks over to the phone that was ringing and then turned down the volume of the phone so that it wouldn't bother her !!
I was so shocked ! I looked over at the manager and asked if she saw it - and she didn't think it was unusual !!
When I came down for dinner, the same F&B manager saw me, but didn't offer anything other than "Table for one"?
I tried the wifi at the restaurant - it was also slow.. too slow for my VPN to even log on ! I missed a critical and important message due to this fact.
The little signboard at the hotel shuttle pick up at Stansted Airport said that one may charge the 2 quid bus fee to the room. Upon boarding the bus driver said no! Why have that on the sign when this is not possible. Thank goodness I had change!
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Anyway, upon check out, I did manage to speak to the hotel Manager, who offered to give me 20,000 points. Which I laughed off because that's not even enough to redeem a stay at this hotel which requires 35,000 points.
So what do you think is a fair compensation from this bad stay? Do you think I can ask for a "Be My Guest " certificate?
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To me your only complaint was the slow internet, which unless they guaranteed you a certain speed connection, is not a complaint at all.
It's certainly not worth a free night there.
It's certainly not worth a free night there.
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save your complaints for when something really goes bad.
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Yep, bad internet... happens, move on.
Sorry, but this really doesn't warrant a lot, certainly not a free stay.
If staying online is critical you should be prepared. I understand it's annoying and you expected better, but it is one of those things that still happens.
Your complaint to the hotel was more than justified, but so is the compensation offered.
Sorry, but this really doesn't warrant a lot, certainly not a free stay.
If staying online is critical you should be prepared. I understand it's annoying and you expected better, but it is one of those things that still happens.
Your complaint to the hotel was more than justified, but so is the compensation offered.
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Sorry I'm with the majority here, I don't think any of what happened would qualify for "bad stay". Furthermore, I think the 20,000 points offered is MORE than generous. Had I been in your shoes I'd have been happy with 5,000.
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I wholeheartedly agree. It would be different if the issue prevented one from enjoying a good night's sleep, like a chain driven A/C unit.
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I had stayed over at the Stansted Hilton Airport hotel last night.
I had already given a brief outline here so didn't want to double post: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19504232-post33.html
But would like to add the following:
When discussing about the slow internet to the Duty Manager, I noticed that the phone at reception was ringing off the hook. There was one person on duty and she was 'busy' checking in someone. How much effort does it take to pick up the phone and ask the person to hold? What does she do? She calmly walks over to the phone that was ringing and then turned down the volume of the phone so that it wouldn't bother her !!
I was so shocked ! I looked over at the manager and asked if she saw it - and she didn't think it was unusual !!
When I came down for dinner, the same F&B manager saw me, but didn't offer anything other than "Table for one"?
I tried the wifi at the restaurant - it was also slow.. too slow for my VPN to even log on ! I missed a critical and important message due to this fact.
The little signboard at the hotel shuttle pick up at Stansted Airport said that one may charge the 2 quid bus fee to the room. Upon boarding the bus driver said no! Why have that on the sign when this is not possible. Thank goodness I had change!
======
Anyway, upon check out, I did manage to speak to the hotel Manager, who offered to give me 20,000 points. Which I laughed off because that's not even enough to redeem a stay at this hotel which requires 35,000 points.
So what do you think is a fair compensation from this bad stay? Do you think I can ask for a "Be My Guest " certificate?
I had already given a brief outline here so didn't want to double post: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19504232-post33.html
But would like to add the following:
When discussing about the slow internet to the Duty Manager, I noticed that the phone at reception was ringing off the hook. There was one person on duty and she was 'busy' checking in someone. How much effort does it take to pick up the phone and ask the person to hold? What does she do? She calmly walks over to the phone that was ringing and then turned down the volume of the phone so that it wouldn't bother her !!
I was so shocked ! I looked over at the manager and asked if she saw it - and she didn't think it was unusual !!
When I came down for dinner, the same F&B manager saw me, but didn't offer anything other than "Table for one"?
I tried the wifi at the restaurant - it was also slow.. too slow for my VPN to even log on ! I missed a critical and important message due to this fact.
The little signboard at the hotel shuttle pick up at Stansted Airport said that one may charge the 2 quid bus fee to the room. Upon boarding the bus driver said no! Why have that on the sign when this is not possible. Thank goodness I had change!
======
Anyway, upon check out, I did manage to speak to the hotel Manager, who offered to give me 20,000 points. Which I laughed off because that's not even enough to redeem a stay at this hotel which requires 35,000 points.
So what do you think is a fair compensation from this bad stay? Do you think I can ask for a "Be My Guest " certificate?
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As noted in OP's linked review post, the problem was compounded by lack of ability to contact anyone about the problem (phone not picked up by operator, FD, etc.).
Personally Internet service is a big deal - when I'm on the road whether for business or leisure, I need to do work, and that almost always requires Internet access so I would be in quite a bit of trouble if a hotel's advertised Internet service was unusable. Furthermore, I'd expect more of a response from management than "oh, it's always like this because we're near the airport".
Personally Internet service is a big deal - when I'm on the road whether for business or leisure, I need to do work, and that almost always requires Internet access so I would be in quite a bit of trouble if a hotel's advertised Internet service was unusable. Furthermore, I'd expect more of a response from management than "oh, it's always like this because we're near the airport".
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I agree too. A very generous offer in response to the issues.
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I had a few issues the other month at a DT, was staying on a MVP rate of $63. When I mentioned to the mgr what would be fair is the amount of pts it takes for a free night , he countered with Comping the stay or 10k. I told him I will take it up with Corp, they offered 15k due to the fact that I was on a discounted rate
Got lucky in that the mgr emailed me and offered 20k or refunding the $$, told him Corp gave me 15k but Id take the extra 5k which he gave me as well
OP I have no idea what your rate was both $$ (GBP) wise and if it was a discounted rate, so that 20k might be alot more then Corp will offer you!
Got lucky in that the mgr emailed me and offered 20k or refunding the $$, told him Corp gave me 15k but Id take the extra 5k which he gave me as well
OP I have no idea what your rate was both $$ (GBP) wise and if it was a discounted rate, so that 20k might be alot more then Corp will offer you!
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OP's complaint is that somebody else's call wasn't answered fast enough. He wants compensation for that horror which didn't even befall him.
If he pursues this, when corporate looks at it, they will likely see that this is just one of those customers who can't be satisfied. Humor him on this one and he'll be back because there weren't enough ice cubes in his drink. Better to say no and cut him off. Hope he goes elsewhere.
If he pursues this, when corporate looks at it, they will likely see that this is just one of those customers who can't be satisfied. Humor him on this one and he'll be back because there weren't enough ice cubes in his drink. Better to say no and cut him off. Hope he goes elsewhere.
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Wow! Making a mountian out of a mole hill! Slow internet is not enough to make a bad stay. You were offered a more than generous compensation for such a minor complaint.
If internet access is so important to you, why don't you do what many many business ppl do? They have their own connection point to guarantee good access. You can NEVER tell what a hotel's internet is like. Speed also depends on how many ppl are on it. Being an airport hotel, I would imagine there were lots of ppl working on business while overnighting.
IMO, it would have been sufficient for the duty manager to make a note of the complaint and give you an apology. Your complaint is certainly NOT worth a free night stay.
This compensation mind-set is really getting out of hand!!
If internet access is so important to you, why don't you do what many many business ppl do? They have their own connection point to guarantee good access. You can NEVER tell what a hotel's internet is like. Speed also depends on how many ppl are on it. Being an airport hotel, I would imagine there were lots of ppl working on business while overnighting.
IMO, it would have been sufficient for the duty manager to make a note of the complaint and give you an apology. Your complaint is certainly NOT worth a free night stay.
This compensation mind-set is really getting out of hand!!