Hertz Award Rental Frustration!
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Hertz Award Rental Frustration!
So I just hung up with Hertz, and I'm beyond frustrated and confused!
Here is the situation:
I currently have a minivan rented from March 27th - April 6th at the Orlando Airport. At the time of booking, I used 4,000 points for the first week and then paid cash for the balance...didn't have enough points to do more than that. Now I currently have ~7,000 points + the 4,000 for this rental, so I called to change the entire rental to all points.
I was told by both the agent and her manager, that I could not rent the minivan for ten days using points...I'd have to turn the van back in and then re-rent it using a 3 day award...what a pain in the @ss...so I said, fine, no problem, I'll just use 8,000 point and reserve it for two weeks and turn it in early. NOPE, can't do that either...If I turned it in early I was told they would take all 8,000 points AND charge me for the 3 days of rental over a week b/c the 2 week award has a minimum of 12 days...What the heck?!?! This makes absolutely NO SENSE to me whatsoever!
As a side note, both ladies that I dealt with were extremely patient, professional, and understanding...couldn't be happier with the level of service, just don't like the answer they had to give me!
Anyone else ever run into something like this? I can't believe there is not a work around in the system?!?!
Here is the situation:
I currently have a minivan rented from March 27th - April 6th at the Orlando Airport. At the time of booking, I used 4,000 points for the first week and then paid cash for the balance...didn't have enough points to do more than that. Now I currently have ~7,000 points + the 4,000 for this rental, so I called to change the entire rental to all points.
I was told by both the agent and her manager, that I could not rent the minivan for ten days using points...I'd have to turn the van back in and then re-rent it using a 3 day award...what a pain in the @ss...so I said, fine, no problem, I'll just use 8,000 point and reserve it for two weeks and turn it in early. NOPE, can't do that either...If I turned it in early I was told they would take all 8,000 points AND charge me for the 3 days of rental over a week b/c the 2 week award has a minimum of 12 days...What the heck?!?! This makes absolutely NO SENSE to me whatsoever!
As a side note, both ladies that I dealt with were extremely patient, professional, and understanding...couldn't be happier with the level of service, just don't like the answer they had to give me!
Anyone else ever run into something like this? I can't believe there is not a work around in the system?!?!
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It makes perfect sense. That's just how the system works... isn't it convenient (for them) how easily they can force you to pay? (@ Hertz)
Like most companies, Hertz does make it difficult to use award points. They would prefer you didn't use them so they could make more revenue. Unfortunately (again, for them) they need to have this points scheme if they want people to stay remotely loyal to them.
-J.
Like most companies, Hertz does make it difficult to use award points. They would prefer you didn't use them so they could make more revenue. Unfortunately (again, for them) they need to have this points scheme if they want people to stay remotely loyal to them.
-J.
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It makes perfect sense. That's just how the system works... isn't it convenient (for them) how easily they can force you to pay? (@ Hertz)
Like most companies, Hertz does make it difficult to use award points. They would prefer you didn't use them so they could make more revenue. Unfortunately (again, for them) they need to have this points scheme if they want people to stay remotely loyal to them.
-J.
Like most companies, Hertz does make it difficult to use award points. They would prefer you didn't use them so they could make more revenue. Unfortunately (again, for them) they need to have this points scheme if they want people to stay remotely loyal to them.
-J.
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I have to disagree. I have used 35,000 points in the last 2 years with not a single issue. You run into problems with any rental (Including revenue) when trying to do something outside the system. If you have a van rented for a week and then want to add 3 days you are NOT going to get the same rate. If you make it 2 weeks you will. The rate the OP got was a weekly point rate which is lower than the daily rate. Cake/eat it too is the issue.
OP needs to make a decision, book or cancel and move on.
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I have to disagree. I have used 35,000 points in the last 2 years with not a single issue. You run into problems with any rental (Including revenue) when trying to do something outside the system. If you have a van rented for a week and then want to add 3 days you are NOT going to get the same rate. If you make it 2 weeks you will. The rate the OP got was a weekly point rate which is lower than the daily rate. Cake/eat it too is the issue.
If there is anything to complain about is the all the stupid airport taxes and surcharges on free days. This makes award less valuable, especially on weekends, where you can get opaque booking rate+tax for just a few dollars more than than surcharges on the free award day.
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Perhaps I'm not making my point...I'm not frustrated with the overall program of Hertz...i think it's probably the best in the car rental industry...although I have no choice, as my company has a contract with Hertz.
What is frustrating is that I'm willing to pay more than what they are requiring (using 8,000 points for two weeks) for my rental period of 10 days. Instead of allowing me to do that, they are saying I would be punished if I did. In addition, I think the fact that you can't combine a 1 week rental with a 3 day rental to make one 10 day rental is something they should change. If I wanted to rent for 10 days using points, I would have to physically return the vehicle and start another 3 day rental under a different contract.
not sure why anyone would think this is efficient or a good policy, but apparently plenty here do.
What is frustrating is that I'm willing to pay more than what they are requiring (using 8,000 points for two weeks) for my rental period of 10 days. Instead of allowing me to do that, they are saying I would be punished if I did. In addition, I think the fact that you can't combine a 1 week rental with a 3 day rental to make one 10 day rental is something they should change. If I wanted to rent for 10 days using points, I would have to physically return the vehicle and start another 3 day rental under a different contract.
not sure why anyone would think this is efficient or a good policy, but apparently plenty here do.
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Perhaps I'm not making my point...I'm not frustrated with the overall program of Hertz...i think it's probably the best in the car rental industry...although I have no choice, as my company has a contract with Hertz.
What is frustrating is that I'm willing to pay more than what they are requiring (using 8,000 points for two weeks) for my rental period of 10 days. Instead of allowing me to do that, they are saying I would be punished if I did. In addition, I think the fact that you can't combine a 1 week rental with a 3 day rental to make one 10 day rental is something they should change. If I wanted to rent for 10 days using points, I would have to physically return the vehicle and start another 3 day rental under a different contract.
not sure why anyone would think this is efficient or a good policy, but apparently plenty here do.
What is frustrating is that I'm willing to pay more than what they are requiring (using 8,000 points for two weeks) for my rental period of 10 days. Instead of allowing me to do that, they are saying I would be punished if I did. In addition, I think the fact that you can't combine a 1 week rental with a 3 day rental to make one 10 day rental is something they should change. If I wanted to rent for 10 days using points, I would have to physically return the vehicle and start another 3 day rental under a different contract.
not sure why anyone would think this is efficient or a good policy, but apparently plenty here do.
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I just assumed you knew this but: If you book a 2 week rental and bring it back after 1 week and 3 days you do not pay any more. I do this often for cars I need for say, 5 days. I book a week at the lower rate and drop it off early. I am charged the full week but in most cases it is less than if I "booked" it that way.
Maybe I'll call back tonight and see if I can get the answer I'm looking for!
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thanks for posting this...this is contrary to what they told me...they said if I did the 2 week rental and turned it in after 10 days, they would take my 8,000 points, PLUS charge me for the 3 days beyond the one week...I've been told this by an agent and a supervisor.
Maybe I'll call back tonight and see if I can get the answer I'm looking for!
Maybe I'll call back tonight and see if I can get the answer I'm looking for!
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If you were paying cash for the 1 week 3 day rental you wouldn't get the benefit of the 2 week rental rate. Same applies for the point rental; if you booked a 2 week rental and returned it early you would be repriced at a 1 week, 3 day rental.
A previous poster mentioned booking for 7 days and returning after 5; the reason this works is a 5 day rental is a week rental; with the exception of a Saturday keep rate requirement, they are one in the same.
The points program is not always the most convenient, but the rules are the rules; it's a perk, it doesn't even have to exist.
A previous poster mentioned booking for 7 days and returning after 5; the reason this works is a 5 day rental is a week rental; with the exception of a Saturday keep rate requirement, they are one in the same.
The points program is not always the most convenient, but the rules are the rules; it's a perk, it doesn't even have to exist.