Hawaii Christmas '17- advice needed for newbie
#1
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Hawaii Christmas '17- advice needed for newbie
Family of 6, celebrating 50th wedding anniversary. Ages 13-76. Unfortunately, only option is over Christmas (we don't mind flying on Christmas Eve or day, btw). Looking to spend 7-9 days in Hawaii.
Based in EWR. Two of us have status- Platinum and 1k. Close to $1M miles between us, but hard pressed to spend unless saver (which I know is not really an option those dates). Willing to travel to other NYC airports but prefer EWR. Oldest two are locks for J, rest of us would prefer J but would settle for some type of extra space seating. If we could find J fare for under $2500/rt, likely would purchase.
Only one of us has been to Hawaii, many years ago. Looking for primarily relaxation and beauty, followed by exploration and sightseeing. We want to experience Hawaii so it doesn't feel like a typical beach vacation, yet not feel "go, go, go" every day. Also wouldn't mind options to split up- thinking of a round or two of golf for some, maybe some exploration for the younger ones while the older folks relax at beach/pool, etc.
Budget is not a deciding factor. Looking for luxury at prices we can stomach (understanding Christmas is going to be a premium....just don't want to be paying $2500/night for standard hotel rooms).
I've searched the forums and while there are some excellent suggestions, nothing really tailored to our needs....
Based in EWR. Two of us have status- Platinum and 1k. Close to $1M miles between us, but hard pressed to spend unless saver (which I know is not really an option those dates). Willing to travel to other NYC airports but prefer EWR. Oldest two are locks for J, rest of us would prefer J but would settle for some type of extra space seating. If we could find J fare for under $2500/rt, likely would purchase.
Only one of us has been to Hawaii, many years ago. Looking for primarily relaxation and beauty, followed by exploration and sightseeing. We want to experience Hawaii so it doesn't feel like a typical beach vacation, yet not feel "go, go, go" every day. Also wouldn't mind options to split up- thinking of a round or two of golf for some, maybe some exploration for the younger ones while the older folks relax at beach/pool, etc.
Budget is not a deciding factor. Looking for luxury at prices we can stomach (understanding Christmas is going to be a premium....just don't want to be paying $2500/night for standard hotel rooms).
I've searched the forums and while there are some excellent suggestions, nothing really tailored to our needs....
#2
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Congrats on your 50th!
For flights, you should be able to get J from EWR for under $2500 pp. The inventory has not loaded, but you can keep track on United.com or Google Flights:
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...017-01-25;sc=b
I'd grab the flights as soon as they are loaded in inventory. If you have not used Google Flights before, if you click on the date, the monthly calendar appears, and you can select the dates for your roundtrip and see the different prices per day.
Some hotel options outside of Waikiki:
Oahu:
Kahala Hotel
Four Seasons Ko'Olina
Turtle Bay Hotel
Big Island:
Mauna Kea Beach Hotel
Hapuna Beach Hotel
Mauna Lani
Halualai
Maui:
Four Seasons
Andaz
Kauai:
Hyatt
St. Regis Princeville
Just some ideas to get you started...
For flights, you should be able to get J from EWR for under $2500 pp. The inventory has not loaded, but you can keep track on United.com or Google Flights:
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...017-01-25;sc=b
I'd grab the flights as soon as they are loaded in inventory. If you have not used Google Flights before, if you click on the date, the monthly calendar appears, and you can select the dates for your roundtrip and see the different prices per day.
Some hotel options outside of Waikiki:
Oahu:
Kahala Hotel
Four Seasons Ko'Olina
Turtle Bay Hotel
Big Island:
Mauna Kea Beach Hotel
Hapuna Beach Hotel
Mauna Lani
Halualai
Maui:
Four Seasons
Andaz
Kauai:
Hyatt
St. Regis Princeville
Just some ideas to get you started...
Last edited by 747FC; Jan 5, 2017 at 12:00 pm Reason: Options
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Congrats on your 50th!
For flights, you should be able to get J from EWR for under $2500 pp. The inventory has not loaded, but you can keep track on United.com or Google Flights:
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...017-01-25;sc=b
I'd grab the flights as soon as they are loaded in inventory. If you have not used Google Flights before, if you click on the date, the monthly calendar appears, and you can select the dates for your roundtrip and see the different prices per day.
Some hotel options outside of Waikiki:
Oahu:
Kahala Hotel
Four Seasons Ko'Olina
Turtle Bay Hotel
Big Island:
Mauna Kea Beach Hotel
Hapuna Beach Hotel
Mauna Lani
Halualai
Maui:
Four Seasons
Andaz
Kauai:
Hyatt
St. Regis Princeville
Just some ideas to get you started...
For flights, you should be able to get J from EWR for under $2500 pp. The inventory has not loaded, but you can keep track on United.com or Google Flights:
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...017-01-25;sc=b
I'd grab the flights as soon as they are loaded in inventory. If you have not used Google Flights before, if you click on the date, the monthly calendar appears, and you can select the dates for your roundtrip and see the different prices per day.
Some hotel options outside of Waikiki:
Oahu:
Kahala Hotel
Four Seasons Ko'Olina
Turtle Bay Hotel
Big Island:
Mauna Kea Beach Hotel
Hapuna Beach Hotel
Mauna Lani
Halualai
Maui:
Four Seasons
Andaz
Kauai:
Hyatt
St. Regis Princeville
Just some ideas to get you started...
With respect to the hotels and locations- is there any one area that you feel might better suit to our desires? I almost feel like it's paralysis by analysis for us at this point- we've done a ton of research and are just as confused!
Btw it's my parents' 50th....my family is getting the "free ride" as long as we pay for transport! Nice deal for us....
#4
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Just want to veg? Four Seasons Lanai (Manele) or Big Island or Maui properties.
In Winter, I would stay away from all North Shore hotels as there is more rain at that time. So, I would exclude the Turtle Bay and St Regis from my list.
Final caveat: Can't say now, but years ago I used to go to Lanai Island frequently, and the wintertime weather used to sock in flights on occasion. Not sure whether they fixed the problem with new equipment.
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I've just about given up on using miles for a saver award in J on the non-stop to Hawaii. What I have done is purchased connecting flights and as it gets closer to departure, see if I can revise to the non-stop... but you have to be within your no-fee revision period. I've managed to get the flights in J for around $1300, but not at Christmas time.
I've also used standard awards for my parents for them to fly in J both ways. What we've done is used the miles for them and purchased J for us. My parents paid for some of our ticket essentially "splitting" the cost of ticket in $$$ and miles amongst all who are traveling.
For a special trip, such as this one, and considering the time of year, I would just bite the bullet and use both $$$ and miles.
Note that if you can fly on Christmas and return on Jan 2 or 3 you may have better luck.
I've also used standard awards for my parents for them to fly in J both ways. What we've done is used the miles for them and purchased J for us. My parents paid for some of our ticket essentially "splitting" the cost of ticket in $$$ and miles amongst all who are traveling.
For a special trip, such as this one, and considering the time of year, I would just bite the bullet and use both $$$ and miles.
Note that if you can fly on Christmas and return on Jan 2 or 3 you may have better luck.
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Congrats on your 50th!
Some hotel options outside of Waikiki:
Oahu:
Kahala Hotel
Four Seasons Ko'Olina
Turtle Bay Hotel
Big Island:
Mauna Kea Beach Hotel
Hapuna Beach Hotel
Mauna Lani
Halualai
Maui:
Four Seasons
Andaz
Kauai:
Hyatt
St. Regis Princeville
Just some ideas to get you started...
Some hotel options outside of Waikiki:
Oahu:
Kahala Hotel
Four Seasons Ko'Olina
Turtle Bay Hotel
Big Island:
Mauna Kea Beach Hotel
Hapuna Beach Hotel
Mauna Lani
Halualai
Maui:
Four Seasons
Andaz
Kauai:
Hyatt
St. Regis Princeville
Just some ideas to get you started...
The Kahala
Halekulani
Royal Hawaiian
Four Seasons (Oahu at Ko Olina, Lanai, Maui, Hualalai)
Fairmont (Kea Lani, Orchid)
Andaz Maui
Grand Hyatt Kauai
Mauna Kea
Mauna Lani
Montage Kapalua
Ritz Carlton Kapalua
The Modern Honolulu
St. Regis Princeville Other hotels where some advisors can offer alternative benefits include the Grand Wailea and Hyatt Waikiki Beach.
#7
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Those same benefits are available through the Chase and Amex travel sites, should the person have one of the cards with that access.
I know I have them through both Chase UA Pres Plus and Chase Reserve.
I know I have them through both Chase UA Pres Plus and Chase Reserve.
#8
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With a family of 6, you may want to look at condo options, you will pay a Christmas premium, but should be able to find 3BR options that won't be outrageous and will give you a bit more room and flexibility.
#9
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If money is no object, the afore mentioned Halekulani is an absolutely class operation. If anyone is active or retired military*, although not in the same class, the Hale Koa is a fantastic bargain. Even if not staying there, for qualified people*, they have a good and reasonably priced Luau, Mongolian BBQ, crab feast, etc.
* https://www.halekoa.com/accommodatio...igibility.html
* https://www.halekoa.com/accommodatio...igibility.html
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We are now staying at Honua Kai in Maui. We used vbro to find the room, which we booked from an agent called Vacasa. And of course there are others if you don't go to Maui.
It's good that you're planning now because Xmas is busy and popular; once you book lodging and plane and car, you can then enjoy researching the yummy restaurants and grocers and activities.
Have fun!
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Someone said not to stay at Turtle Bay in the winter because of rain. I've stayed there in February and March before, and the weather was fine. While Turtle Bay is indeed on the North Shore, I think it gets less rain than the rest of the North Shore. I've even researched average rainfall statistics for that part of the island, and Kahuku (where Turtle Bay is located) doesn't get much more rain than Honolulu.
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Someone said not to stay at Turtle Bay in the winter because of rain. I've stayed there in February and March before, and the weather was fine. While Turtle Bay is indeed on the North Shore, I think it gets less rain than the rest of the North Shore. I've even researched average rainfall statistics for that part of the island, and Kahuku (where Turtle Bay is located) doesn't get much more rain than Honolulu.
The great thing about Turtle Bay is that the setting is just stunning. Gorgeous views in all directions.
The great thing about Turtle Bay is that the setting is just stunning. Gorgeous views in all directions.
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Someone said not to stay at Turtle Bay in the winter because of rain. I've stayed there in February and March before, and the weather was fine. While Turtle Bay is indeed on the North Shore, I think it gets less rain than the rest of the North Shore. I've even researched average rainfall statistics for that part of the island, and Kahuku (where Turtle Bay is located) doesn't get much more rain than Honolulu.
The great thing about Turtle Bay is that the setting is just stunning. Gorgeous views in all directions.
The great thing about Turtle Bay is that the setting is just stunning. Gorgeous views in all directions.