Transiting at AMS, looking for airside shower facilities
Oct 12, 2016, 6:26 am
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No idea if that early in the morning the security queues are already as bad as they are later in the day, I would re-consider using hand luggage that will be allowed on OS
1. Clear arrival immigration to enter the NL, and with 1 out of the 3 checkpoints closed I can imagine it can take some time, you also loose all the benefit you have as the BOS flight is one of the first to arrive by delaying yourself airside for a shower.
2. Queue for OS check-in, no idea how long that will take
3. Queue for Schengen departure security, which by time the queue can easily be 45 minutes or longer
So a worse-case scenario if your BOS flight is on-time
1. Flight lands on-time (it generally lands early it seems), 05:50
2. Arrival to the gate after taxi from Polderbaan, 06:05
3. Gate open, you are in the terminal, 06:15
4. You get to the yotel/mercure, 06:25
5. You finish your shower and get to immigration, 07:00, now you are behind several flights arriving from the far-east/Africa/US
6. You clear immigration, 07:45
7. You finish check-in at the OS counter, 08:15
8. You clear security, 09:15
1. Flight lands on-time (it generally lands early it seems), 05:50
2. Arrival to the gate after taxi from Polderbaan, 06:05
3. Gate open, you are in the terminal, 06:15
4. You get to the yotel/mercure, 06:25
5. You finish your shower and get to immigration, 07:00, now you are behind several flights arriving from the far-east/Africa/US
6. You clear immigration, 07:45
7. You finish check-in at the OS counter, 08:15
8. You clear security, 09:15
So it is doable, however it will be tight, and delays in the DL flight will now mean that you are likely to miss the OS flight, I would not plan such a connection if it requires going land-side.
If already going land-side, you might want to consider using the Sheraton for the showers, the immigration queues should be much better as the BOS flight is one of the first to arrive in the morning.
If already going land-side, you might want to consider using the Sheraton for the showers, the immigration queues should be much better as the BOS flight is one of the first to arrive in the morning.
Last edited by Analise; Oct 12, 2016 at 7:27 am
Oct 12, 2016, 7:15 am
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Thank you for letting me know.
Closed?? So 2 of them will be closed next week too?
I will have checked in online. It will just be a bag dropoff. I wonder if they have separate lines for that.
This confuses me. I would go for a shower before going through immigration after I land at AMS? I thought lining up to have the passport stamped at immigration as I enter a Schengen country would happen as soon I got off the plane. So if I want to go through immigration first, I have to forego a shower?
As you said above, if I stop at the Yotel or Mercure first, Asian/African/North American flights will now be in front of me at the immigration lines so it won't matter. Is that correct?
Closed?? So 2 of them will be closed next week too?
I will have checked in online. It will just be a bag dropoff. I wonder if they have separate lines for that.
This confuses me. I would go for a shower before going through immigration after I land at AMS? I thought lining up to have the passport stamped at immigration as I enter a Schengen country would happen as soon I got off the plane. So if I want to go through immigration first, I have to forego a shower?
As you said above, if I stop at the Yotel or Mercure first, Asian/African/North American flights will now be in front of me at the immigration lines so it won't matter. Is that correct?
Passport control at the D-pier is closed until the end of this year, this mostly has an impact for passengers who arrive from a non-Schengen flight.
No 'seperate' lines for baggage drop off. If you didn't need to drop off luggage you probally wouldn't visit those desks anyway
Yes Yotel/Mercure is airside just outside KL lounge 52, non-Schengen area. You are allowed to roam freely through lounge 2/3 once you leave the plane.
However you only have a BP for a connecting Schengen flight so once you go through passport control they most likely will not allow you back into the non-Schengen area.
Oct 12, 2016, 7:22 am
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Passport control at the D-pier is closed until the end of this year, this mostly has an impact for passengers who arrive from a non-Schengen flight.
No 'seperate' lines for baggage drop off. If you didn't need to drop off luggage you probally wouldn't visit those desks anyway
Yes Yotel/Mercure is airside just outside KL lounge 52, non-Schengen area. You are allowed to roam freely through lounge 2/3 once you leave the plane.
However you only have a BP for a connecting Schengen flight so once you go through passport control they most likely will not allow you back into the non-Schengen area.
No 'seperate' lines for baggage drop off. If you didn't need to drop off luggage you probally wouldn't visit those desks anyway
Yes Yotel/Mercure is airside just outside KL lounge 52, non-Schengen area. You are allowed to roam freely through lounge 2/3 once you leave the plane.
However you only have a BP for a connecting Schengen flight so once you go through passport control they most likely will not allow you back into the non-Schengen area.
Last edited by Analise; Oct 12, 2016 at 8:43 am
Oct 12, 2016, 8:42 am
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Yes Yotel/Mercure is airside just outside KL lounge 52, non-Schengen area. You are allowed to roam freely through lounge 2/3 once you leave the plane.
However you only have a BP for a connecting Schengen flight so once you go through passport control they most likely will not allow you back into the non-Schengen area.
However you only have a BP for a connecting Schengen flight so once you go through passport control they most likely will not allow you back into the non-Schengen area.
Just so I understand and I apologize for my confusion, after departing my DL flight from BOS, in what order do I go through immigration, get a shower, go to passport control, more security if any, and go to the OS assigned gate? Thanks.
Oct 12, 2016, 9:16 am
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It looks like my OS flight will be at the B gates at AMS.
Just so I understand and I apologize for my confusion, after departing my DL flight from BOS, in what order do I go through immigration, get a shower, go to passport control, more security if any, and go to the OS assigned gate? Thanks.
Just so I understand and I apologize for my confusion, after departing my DL flight from BOS, in what order do I go through immigration, get a shower, go to passport control, more security if any, and go to the OS assigned gate? Thanks.
Alrighty, you most likely arrive at the E or D gates. Remember you will stay airside during your whole stay.
From there follow the directions towards the F-gates/KLM lounge 52. When you arrive near the lounge 52 you go upstairs towards it. More or less in front of the KL lounge 52 you will find the Mercure hotel with showers (see map).
After taking a shower you may head to the B, C gates (downstairs again) (transfers). At the beginning of the D gates you will find the non-Schengen - Schengen transfer border/passport control that leads you from the non-Schengen to the Schengen area (your still airside and will stay airside). After apssport control you head towards the B-gates (or go for some shopping/a meal)
Linkie Schiphol map with lounges etc to make it easier:
http://www.schiphol.nl/Travellers/At...AndLounges.htm
Short version:
Deplane -> Mercure hotel & shower -> transfer (non-Schengen-Schengen) & passport control -> B gates (all airside, no security involved)
Oct 13, 2016, 2:35 am
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Yes Yotel/Mercure is airside just outside KL lounge 52, non-Schengen area. You are allowed to roam freely through lounge 2/3 once you leave the plane.
However you only have a BP for a connecting Schengen flight so once you go through passport control they most likely will not allow you back into the non-Schengen area.
My last few US-AMS-ARN/CDG/CPH/TXL/FCO/VIE/GVA flights didn't involve having to reclear security at AMS even when the onward connection from AMS was separately ticketed and involved no checked luggage. Just passport control at AMS. This change at AMS is one of the few reasons why I have been using AMS a despite what was a growing distaste for flying via AMS back to the US.
Online/app checkin for OS flights intra-Europe works well enough for me.
Oct 13, 2016, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Most of my times at AMS, they don't ask me for a boarding pass to go from the Schengen to non-Schengen side. But sometimes they do ask, at least some others. In other words, use the showers at Mercure before going landside and/or entering Schengen.
I reached out to the Mercure who told me they have 8 showers. That's 6 more than the Yotel.
My last few US-AMS-ARN/CDG/CPH/TXL/FCO/VIE/GVA flights didn't involve having to reclear security at AMS even when the onward connection from AMS was separately ticketed and involved no checked luggage. Just passport control at AMS. This change at AMS is one of the few reasons why I have been using AMS a despite what was a growing distaste for flying via AMS back to the US.
Online/app checkin for OS flights intra-Europe works well enough for me.
Oct 14, 2016, 5:35 am
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Oct 14, 2016, 9:44 am
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But first, just so I am sure, there is no way I can stay in the secured area and just give my pullman to the gate agent to check as I've already paid for check in? I'm willing to pay extra if the amount is €45. From OS: http://www.austrian.com/Info/Flying/..._lang=en&cc=US
Specifically, my original bag's total measurement (length + width = height) is 118 cm. If I took the bag to the gate, it looks like they would charge my €45 as it is well within their excess maximum of 158cm. Is that correct? I'm willing to pay €45. Thank you.
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Oct 15, 2016, 9:37 pm
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Going back to Grouchy's flow chart recommendation, after the shower at Mercure, I'll go to passport control which is affected by the closure at D.
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Oct 16, 2016, 5:11 am
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Won't effect you as you don't go landside. You transfer non-Schengen - Schengen all airside.
Oct 16, 2016, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Grouchy
Won't effect you as you don't go landside. You transfer non-Schengen - Schengen all airside.
Just to confirm, D's closure also won't affect me when arriving at AMS from a local hotel on 25 Oct to fly on Delta to JFK?
Also, just to confirm, will taking the time to shower at Mercure (or Yotel) make me risk longer lines at passport control/immigration because more flights will have arrived?