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Old Apr 4, 2015, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by ToGo
that happend often...
The try to check my Train Ticket....
You must be the unluckiest person on Earth.


So i dont know the Law to get into Switzerland for non European so i give a warning. Many people wondering when the have trouble on the CH Boarder....
I've been through Switzerland over 100 times in the last 12 years, as a U.S. citizen, and have never been asked to show any form of identification, with the exception of immigration at ZRH. I've been on trains and driven rental cars cross border more times than I can remember and never have had to show anyone any ID. Never been stopped at the border. Never had any problems at the border.
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Old Apr 4, 2015, 9:04 am
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I've been on trains and driven rental cars cross border more times than I can remember and never have had to show anyone any ID. Never been stopped at the border. Never had any problems at the border.
the Austrian Custom check often the train for smuggling whatever and check the ID.
You must be the unluckiest person on Earth.
No not realy. The Train staff make me pissed when the broke the law. The know that is illegal what do the but the dont stop it...
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Old Apr 4, 2015, 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by AlienInTheFatherland
2. On arriving in Switzerland they will pass through an external Schengen border and be inside the Schengen area.

3. This will involve having Swiss customs stamp their passports and giving them a tourist visa - the stamp on the passport is the visa. This is known as a "visa-on-arrival"
(turning pedant mode on)
It will be Swiss imigration, not Swiss customs.

Switzerland - unlike the other countries the OP will visit - is outside the European Common Customs and VAT Area. Accordingly there are still customs controls between switzerland and other countries, even if they are both inside the Schengen area.

Customs is different from Imigration.

And the Schengen Area, European Common Customs and VAT Area, and membership of the EU - are three different things. In a Venn diagram there are countries and regions inside each of the potential interplay permutations.
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Old Apr 4, 2015, 9:36 am
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It will be Swiss imigration, not Swiss customs.
Yes you're quite right, although, in defence of my honour, I assume you are referring to Immigration (that's me on spelling mode...!!)

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Old Apr 4, 2015, 9:39 am
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the police search for illegal immigrants on the train to.
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Old Apr 4, 2015, 12:34 pm
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the police search for illegal immigrants on the train to.
OK might be grasping the bigger picture now...

Am I correctly assuming that your FT-name is more about your country of origin than your habit of buying a beverage somewhere to consume it later on while travelling..?

If so then, unfortunately, I can imagine that you may well have been subjected to more police checks in the area than most would have been accustomed to.

This is regrettable, but will not necessarily also apply to a couple of guys who come over for a holiday from US.
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Old Apr 4, 2015, 1:39 pm
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read this... http://kurier.at/chronik/oesterreich...ner/63.573.718
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Old Apr 4, 2015, 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by ToGo
the Austrian Custom check often the train for smuggling whatever and check the ID.
No not realy. The Train staff make me pissed when the broke the law. The know that is illegal what do the but the dont stop it...
It's not the train staff, but police who with "intelligent" checks enforce our immigration Laws in the Schengen area. They are perfectly entitled to do so (be it in the trains be it on the platform) and for third state citizens can also question about the travel destination and financial means. These controls happen within a certain range of each border, this means that you could also be checked between let's say Trento and Bozen.

Your contribution is not relevant for bona fide tourists of third countries, independent of their appearance as long as the entry requirements are fulfilled.

Originally Posted by ToGo
You name it yourself where the problem lies, with economic refugees inundating Europe.

Originally Posted by ToGo
the police search for illegal immigrants on the train to.
I am extremely glad they do so. All these officials are always polite as long as you treat them as humans too. They are barely enforcing the rules which we democratically choose to protect our common Schengen travel space. I think this is legitimate.

To the OP: Do not worry, even at your initial entry in ZRH you will be treated much better and with less hassle than any European at the US border. Enjoy your trip!
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Old Apr 4, 2015, 8:36 pm
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It's not the train staff, but police
i mean the train stuff check the Train Tickets of of the view from the Platform who is illegal. When i refuse the call the Police.
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Old Apr 5, 2015, 3:24 pm
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I have traveled to Switzerland from other EU countries both by car and by train. By car, you will pay a toll to cross the border and might get your IDs checked by customs (at least from France). By train, you won't even notice you've crossed a border.
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Old Apr 5, 2015, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ToGo
So i dont know the Law to get into Switzerland for non European so i give a warning. Many people wondering when the have trouble on the CH Boarder....
What part of "Switzerland is part of Schengen" don't you understand??? Go and read some (German) articles about Schengen. You clearly don't understand what it's all about.
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Old Apr 5, 2015, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by AlienInTheFatherland

3. This will involve having Swiss customs stamp their passports and giving them a tourist visa - the stamp on the passport is the visa. This is known as a "visa-on-arrival"
I know I'm being pedantic - but no, this is NOT a visa. It's an entry stamp. They're not the same thing.

http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens...s/index_en.htm
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