Earning Frequent Flyer miles/points in Israel
#301
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NYC Area
Programs: UA Premier Platinum, Hyatt Plat
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#303
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NYC Area
Programs: UA Premier Platinum, Hyatt Plat
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Then your methodology is completely flawed because the whole point of these credit cards is to earn points for the most free travel. The ability to earn bonus points or lack thereof (which are plentiful with the UA card) are a significant aspect of these credit cards that needs to be taken into account when comparing which card is more beneficial to earning free travel. The strict comparison you engaged in, which now you claim is void of taking into account bonus miles, fails to give an accurate picture as to which card is more advantageous to have.
#304
Join Date: Aug 2006
Programs: SPG Gold
Posts: 162
Here's another way to look at this - using what is probably the most lucrative redemption possible (business nyc-tlv) 1 Matmid point = $1
So if you spend 190 NIS to earn one Matmid point you get about 1.8% cash back.
That's not too bad, but most people won't get to redeem at that value. They may redeem a bonus Y ticket where 1 point is worth maybe $0.35 - around 0.6% cash back.
So if you spend 190 NIS to earn one Matmid point you get about 1.8% cash back.
That's not too bad, but most people won't get to redeem at that value. They may redeem a bonus Y ticket where 1 point is worth maybe $0.35 - around 0.6% cash back.
#306
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Israel
Programs: BA Gold, LY PL, PC Platinum, RCCL Diamond
Posts: 259
I am reading the details three times already and of course they are not clear. Called ELAL and they did not know what to answer...
(http://www.elal.co.il/ELAL/Hebrew/Ma...M_Benefits.htm)
The way I read it there are 2 different points:
1. You get 20% extra bonus points so for example if you are PL and fly S to Paris you get 100+50+20=170 -> S class points + 50% for PL + 20% for card
2. If you buy in 19000 NIS on the card you get 100 bonus points and 20 points count for your renewal of your PL status
Is this correct? Do you understand the same?
If indeed this is correct point 1 is worth 50 NIS per month easily.
Am I naive?
Thanks
(http://www.elal.co.il/ELAL/Hebrew/Ma...M_Benefits.htm)
The way I read it there are 2 different points:
1. You get 20% extra bonus points so for example if you are PL and fly S to Paris you get 100+50+20=170 -> S class points + 50% for PL + 20% for card
2. If you buy in 19000 NIS on the card you get 100 bonus points and 20 points count for your renewal of your PL status
Is this correct? Do you understand the same?
If indeed this is correct point 1 is worth 50 NIS per month easily.
Am I naive?
Thanks
#308
Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: UA Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 153
Leumi Card are going to maintain the existing ratio of 28 Leumi Card points per 1 El-Al point.
The way they are going to implement the 250 NIS to 1 El-Al point is by giving 1 Leumi Card point for every ~8.92 NIS (instead of 12.50 NIS).
So this actually means you can get an improved ratio also when you convert to UA miles (where it would be ~53.57 NIS per 10 UA miles instead of 72.50 NIS per 10 UA miles).
#309
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: LAX
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El Al credit card promos?
I'm trying to find a credit card that has a sign on bonus that can be used with El Al.
Does El Al belong to any alliances? It appears AA is severing their relationship, wondering if anyone knows if they belong to another alliance / where they will be moving?
Does El Al belong to any alliances? It appears AA is severing their relationship, wondering if anyone knows if they belong to another alliance / where they will be moving?
#310
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
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You can see a list of all current El Al Matmid airline and credit-card partners on El Al's website. Google "Matmid airline partners."
You can see a list of all current El Al Matmid airline and credit-card partners on El Al's website. Google "Matmid airline partners."
#311
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: EWR
Posts: 2,112
For El Al credit card partners, it seems that AMEX is the way to go if you're US-based
#312
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: airberlin gold, club carlson gold, hhonors gold
Posts: 117
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshwex90
I have the same card and also don't pay anything (also Multi Shufersal). Is this a standard thing, getting Matmid points for purchases, or do I need to call and ask?
I wonder - would it also be eligible for other programs, such as UA MP?
After rechecking:
Leumi Card are going to maintain the existing ratio of 28 Leumi Card points per 1 El-Al point.
The way they are going to implement the 250 NIS to 1 El-Al point is by giving 1 Leumi Card point for every ~8.92 NIS (instead of 12.50 NIS).
So this actually means you can get an improved ratio also when you convert to UA miles (where it would be ~53.57 NIS per 10 UA miles instead of 72.50 NIS per 10 UA miles).
Originally Posted by joshwex90
I have the same card and also don't pay anything (also Multi Shufersal). Is this a standard thing, getting Matmid points for purchases, or do I need to call and ask?
I wonder - would it also be eligible for other programs, such as UA MP?
After rechecking:
Leumi Card are going to maintain the existing ratio of 28 Leumi Card points per 1 El-Al point.
The way they are going to implement the 250 NIS to 1 El-Al point is by giving 1 Leumi Card point for every ~8.92 NIS (instead of 12.50 NIS).
So this actually means you can get an improved ratio also when you convert to UA miles (where it would be ~53.57 NIS per 10 UA miles instead of 72.50 NIS per 10 UA miles).
#313
Join Date: Aug 2006
Programs: SPG Gold
Posts: 162
Miles & More Cal MC currently offers a 10,000 sign up bonus, available till 15.12
https://www.cal-online.co.il/he-IL/C...esandMore.aspx
https://www.cal-online.co.il/he-IL/C...esandMore.aspx
#315
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Israel (some of the time)
Programs: BA GGL, CCR; AF/KLM FB Silver; M&M LH FTL; LY GLD; HH Diamond; SPG Gold; A-Club Silver; Avis PCI
Posts: 2,054
A reminder to anyone who has credit card points to convert, as the program changes February 10th and from then converted points are only valid for 3 years, I suggest converting any points you have before that date so they will remain valid indefinitely.