Grabbing Java on the road! Starbucks or other?
Sep 13, 2011, 7:59 pm
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Grabbing Java on the road! Starbucks or other?
I love coffee. I must have it in the AM or I'm pretty sluggish. I sometimes grab a cup in the afternoon as well to keep me alive.
Starbucks is a pretty safe bet when traveling. They are pretty much everywhere, and lately, the quality (to me) has been stable. Years ago, I got horrid Lattes at a Starbucks in an Airport. Flavored milk. At another, nothing but grounds. Then they closed for a whole day an "RETRAINED" their Baristas and that seemed to make a difference. Could be just my imagination.
The problem is, I like to explore and support local and micro-brew coffee companies.
I was just on a trip to San Diego and discovered a GREAT place in the Mission Valley area (Near the Double-Tree Hotel) called Intermezzo. It was FABULOUS. I asked the concierge "Coffee shops near here?" and he replied "Starbucks, across in the plaza."
Luckily, I found "Intermezzo" before I found the Starbucks. Best Latte I ever had. Isn't it interesting that "Starbucks" seems to always be blurted out when you ask for a coffee shop. If you asked for a Restaurant, would they say "McDonalds". Of course not. But for coffee? Always seems to be Starbucks. For many coffee is simply a staple commodity like gasoline. One brand is like any other. Not to me.
When I was in London last, I discovered "Cafe Nero" and loved it. Yet saw most "Londoners" in Starbucks. I guess for them it was unique.
Yes, I love Peets coffee when in San Fran, and I enjoy other Micros like Cup O' Joe in Columbus, Ohio (Roasted by Staufs). Speaking of Columbus, "Crimson Cup" is my all time FAVE. I actually order this by UPS and brew it at home. Go figure. From Columbus, Ohio? Not the first place that springs to mind for "coffee".
What do you do when on the road? Just grab a cup at the hotel? Go to Starbucks? Explore the "other" local brews?
Starbucks is a pretty safe bet when traveling. They are pretty much everywhere, and lately, the quality (to me) has been stable. Years ago, I got horrid Lattes at a Starbucks in an Airport. Flavored milk. At another, nothing but grounds. Then they closed for a whole day an "RETRAINED" their Baristas and that seemed to make a difference. Could be just my imagination.
The problem is, I like to explore and support local and micro-brew coffee companies.
I was just on a trip to San Diego and discovered a GREAT place in the Mission Valley area (Near the Double-Tree Hotel) called Intermezzo. It was FABULOUS. I asked the concierge "Coffee shops near here?" and he replied "Starbucks, across in the plaza."
Luckily, I found "Intermezzo" before I found the Starbucks. Best Latte I ever had. Isn't it interesting that "Starbucks" seems to always be blurted out when you ask for a coffee shop. If you asked for a Restaurant, would they say "McDonalds". Of course not. But for coffee? Always seems to be Starbucks. For many coffee is simply a staple commodity like gasoline. One brand is like any other. Not to me.
When I was in London last, I discovered "Cafe Nero" and loved it. Yet saw most "Londoners" in Starbucks. I guess for them it was unique.
Yes, I love Peets coffee when in San Fran, and I enjoy other Micros like Cup O' Joe in Columbus, Ohio (Roasted by Staufs). Speaking of Columbus, "Crimson Cup" is my all time FAVE. I actually order this by UPS and brew it at home. Go figure. From Columbus, Ohio? Not the first place that springs to mind for "coffee".
What do you do when on the road? Just grab a cup at the hotel? Go to Starbucks? Explore the "other" local brews?
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Sep 13, 2011, 8:13 pm
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I try to stay away from starbucks in general. Their stuff is ok, but at least in my town the good coffee shops charge the same price and deliver twice the quality. I usually make my own coffee at home though and carry it around in a thermos. Espresso is great and all, but at US coffee shop prices it is just not practical.
Sep 13, 2011, 8:14 pm
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Tim Hortons is a favorite here in Canada.. and I don't mind Starbucks..
I'm not a coffee drinker.. so I have their other products..
I'm not a coffee drinker.. so I have their other products..
Sep 13, 2011, 9:08 pm
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If I’m going to a city I’m unfamiliar with an expect to have time, I’ll search coffeegeek.com or toomuchcoffee.com and see if there’s anything worth checking out in the area.
Or, if I’m going to a city with a coffee scene I’m familiar with, like London, I’ll just head straight there first chance I get! Nothing like Fernandez and Wells or Flat White in London.
Also, my standard route from my house to IAH takes me by Houston’s best cafe, Catalina Coffee.
I personally can’t stand the liquid charcoal Starbucks sells as coffee. I’ll drink it if I have to just to get going in the morning, but only then. I carry a hand grinder, collapsible filter cone and immersion boiler with me on trips so I can make a good cup with fresh beans in my hotel.
Or, if I’m going to a city with a coffee scene I’m familiar with, like London, I’ll just head straight there first chance I get! Nothing like Fernandez and Wells or Flat White in London.
Also, my standard route from my house to IAH takes me by Houston’s best cafe, Catalina Coffee.
I personally can’t stand the liquid charcoal Starbucks sells as coffee. I’ll drink it if I have to just to get going in the morning, but only then. I carry a hand grinder, collapsible filter cone and immersion boiler with me on trips so I can make a good cup with fresh beans in my hotel.
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Sep 13, 2011, 10:18 pm
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If I’m going to a city I’m unfamiliar with an expect to have time, I’ll search coffeegeek.com or toomuchcoffee.com and see if there’s anything worth checking out in the area.
Or, if I’m going to a city with a coffee scene I’m familiar with, like London, I’ll just head straight there first chance I get! Nothing like Fernandez and Wells or Flat White in London.
Also, my standard route from my house to IAH takes me by Houston’s best cafe, Catalina Coffee.
I personally can’t stand the liquid charcoal Starbucks sells as coffee. I’ll drink it if I have to just to get going in the morning, but only then. I carry a hand grinder, collapsible filter cone and immersion boiler with me on trips so I can make a good cup with fresh beans in my hotel.
Or, if I’m going to a city with a coffee scene I’m familiar with, like London, I’ll just head straight there first chance I get! Nothing like Fernandez and Wells or Flat White in London.
Also, my standard route from my house to IAH takes me by Houston’s best cafe, Catalina Coffee.
I personally can’t stand the liquid charcoal Starbucks sells as coffee. I’ll drink it if I have to just to get going in the morning, but only then. I carry a hand grinder, collapsible filter cone and immersion boiler with me on trips so I can make a good cup with fresh beans in my hotel.
Given the choice, I'd go for some specialty Mocha Frappacino place..
Sep 14, 2011, 2:08 am
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They quality has vastly improved recently, too - they've started using a darker roast (which is more popular in this part of the world) and much better milk. Plus, you get your coffee in a proper mug!
There's also AMT (very good, but usually just takeaway), Costa (annoyingly inconsistent) and Pret (mostly for sandwiches, but they do excellent coffee too). Smaller chains like Tinderbox do a better job still, but they're harder to find. Even soulless business parks get espresso vans doing the rounds to keep the people working there perked up.
No shortage of independent places around now, though - the days where all you had was a mug of milky tea or Nescafé with a cream cake on a formica table are long gone (although you can still find those places...) Even my little market town has a great, independent coffee place right on the market square.
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I drink iced tea from Starbucks and will frequent Starbucks whenever I travel in North America. Iced tea outside of NA is kind of a crap shoot and usually go with one of the frozen drinks that Starbucks offers outside of NA.
Sep 14, 2011, 6:10 am
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Perhaps where I was in London (South Kensington) the locals just prefer Starbucks.
Cheers.
Sep 14, 2011, 6:17 am
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I've been threatening a 5 hour road trip in each direction just to get to a Tim Hortons.If I’m going to a city I’m unfamiliar with an expect to have time, I’ll search coffeegeek.com or toomuchcoffee.com and see if there’s anything worth checking out in the area.
Or, if I’m going to a city with a coffee scene I’m familiar with, like London, I’ll just head straight there first chance I get! Nothing like Fernandez and Wells or Flat White in London.
Also, my standard route from my house to IAH takes me by Houston’s best cafe, Catalina Coffee.
I personally can’t stand the liquid charcoal Starbucks sells as coffee. I’ll drink it if I have to just to get going in the morning, but only then. I carry a hand grinder, collapsible filter cone and immersion boiler with me on trips so I can make a good cup with fresh beans in my hotel.
Or, if I’m going to a city with a coffee scene I’m familiar with, like London, I’ll just head straight there first chance I get! Nothing like Fernandez and Wells or Flat White in London.
Also, my standard route from my house to IAH takes me by Houston’s best cafe, Catalina Coffee.
I personally can’t stand the liquid charcoal Starbucks sells as coffee. I’ll drink it if I have to just to get going in the morning, but only then. I carry a hand grinder, collapsible filter cone and immersion boiler with me on trips so I can make a good cup with fresh beans in my hotel.
I should add that Tim Hortons brings back childhood memories along with yummy coffee and donuts, so some of it is sentimental.
Sep 14, 2011, 12:03 pm
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Most of my Canadian friends like Tim Hortons.
Most of my American friends do not.
I'm indifferent.
I don't do donuts, so I can't comment on their donut (or Doughnut if you prefer) quality.
Their coffee is on par with McDonalds IMO.
Speaking of that, years ago, Micky D's was the best place to get the bottomless cup of coffee for those that drank cup after cup day after day.
You got a Micky D's cup and coffee in the AM. They used to put out coffee pots on the counter. You refilled at any Micky D's all day long. I never did this, but many of my traveling friends did, and clued me in on that.
No wonder they removed the coffee pots from the counters.
You can do the same thing with Hampton Inn or any middle chain hotel that keeps coffee out all day. Just stop in with your Hampton mug and refill. Assuming there is a Hampton along the way. Most high-end chains do not place coffee out all day.
Most of my American friends do not.
I'm indifferent.
I don't do donuts, so I can't comment on their donut (or Doughnut if you prefer) quality.
Their coffee is on par with McDonalds IMO.
Speaking of that, years ago, Micky D's was the best place to get the bottomless cup of coffee for those that drank cup after cup day after day.
You got a Micky D's cup and coffee in the AM. They used to put out coffee pots on the counter. You refilled at any Micky D's all day long. I never did this, but many of my traveling friends did, and clued me in on that.
No wonder they removed the coffee pots from the counters.
You can do the same thing with Hampton Inn or any middle chain hotel that keeps coffee out all day. Just stop in with your Hampton mug and refill. Assuming there is a Hampton along the way. Most high-end chains do not place coffee out all day.
Sep 14, 2011, 5:55 pm
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Most of my Canadian friends like Tim Hortons.
Most of my American friends do not.
I'm indifferent.
I don't do donuts, so I can't comment on their donut (or Doughnut if you prefer) quality.
Their coffee is on par with McDonalds IMO.
Speaking of that, years ago, Micky D's was the best place to get the bottomless cup of coffee for those that drank cup after cup day after day.
You got a Micky D's cup and coffee in the AM. They used to put out coffee pots on the counter. You refilled at any Micky D's all day long. I never did this, but many of my traveling friends did, and clued me in on that.
No wonder they removed the coffee pots from the counters.
You can do the same thing with Hampton Inn or any middle chain hotel that keeps coffee out all day. Just stop in with your Hampton mug and refill. Assuming there is a Hampton along the way. Most high-end chains do not place coffee out all day.
Most of my American friends do not.
I'm indifferent.
I don't do donuts, so I can't comment on their donut (or Doughnut if you prefer) quality.
Their coffee is on par with McDonalds IMO.
Speaking of that, years ago, Micky D's was the best place to get the bottomless cup of coffee for those that drank cup after cup day after day.
You got a Micky D's cup and coffee in the AM. They used to put out coffee pots on the counter. You refilled at any Micky D's all day long. I never did this, but many of my traveling friends did, and clued me in on that.
No wonder they removed the coffee pots from the counters.
You can do the same thing with Hampton Inn or any middle chain hotel that keeps coffee out all day. Just stop in with your Hampton mug and refill. Assuming there is a Hampton along the way. Most high-end chains do not place coffee out all day.
We are just doing up a Tim Hortons at one of our centers, and the city requires enough drive thru space for 25 vehicles.. yes.. 25 vehicles.. the architect has a double lane merging into a single lane, just to accomodate the volume requirements..
