MSP and LAS 4 Miles Closer?
Sep 14, 2017, 5:01 pm
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MSP and LAS 4 Miles Closer?
I have been flying to LAS a lot the past couple of years. In fact, Monday I'll be flying back again for the 3rd straight week. Whenever I've looked at bookings, each leg has been 1300 miles. Looking at my recent flights, I was credited 1300 miles (or 1950 when booking F) including Monday's flight. Anyhoo, I was just looking at the redeye I SDC to tonight, it's showing 1296 miles. Looking at the legs for next week, they both say 1296. Is this a recent change?
Sep 14, 2017, 5:23 pm
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Sep 14, 2017, 5:35 pm
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A few years ago something like this happened with ATL-PHL, which went from 666 miles to 665, but I always assumed that had to do with numerology.
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Sep 14, 2017, 5:35 pm
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Sheesh, you worded as awarded miles. Base members earn 5x$. Thus a difference of four could reflect a change in fare cost. 1300/5 is $260, which is perfectly normal fare for LAS.
DL may have updated thier tables. I say this becuase I noticed it on another route. Just depending on what part of the airport the measurement is done at can cause a change.
DL may have updated thier tables. I say this becuase I noticed it on another route. Just depending on what part of the airport the measurement is done at can cause a change.
Sep 14, 2017, 5:49 pm
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Sheesh, you worded as awarded miles. Base members earn 5x$. Thus a difference of four could reflect a change in fare cost. 1300/5 is $260, which is perfectly normal fare for LAS.
DL may have updated thier tables. I say this becuase I noticed it on another route. Just depending on what part of the airport the measurement is done at can cause a change.
DL may have updated thier tables. I say this becuase I noticed it on another route. Just depending on what part of the airport the measurement is done at can cause a change.
Aircraft: Airbus A320
Flight Time: 3HR 1M
On Time % : 97
Miles Flown: 1,296
Most of my flights to LAS generate somewhere between 5500 and 8500 RDMs plus the obligatory 2500 RDMs for Bags on Time. But, they always generate 2600 or 3900 MQMs RT depending on class flown.
Sep 14, 2017, 5:55 pm
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It has been noted for many years that Delta apparently has two different sets of data that are used to calculate distances between cities. One is used in the schedule/flight info system, and a different one is used for mileage credit. This has resulted in single digit differences, but you should expect the flight to post 1,300/1,950 MQMs as it always has.
Sep 14, 2017, 5:58 pm
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You made a lot of assumptions in that post. I said miles. Miles could be RDMs or MQMs. You chose the former. Also, I've been DM forever so I get 11X. And, FYI, I read the below, checked past flights, and posted here.
Aircraft: Airbus A320
Flight Time: 3HR 1M
On Time % : 97
Miles Flown: 1,296
Most of my flights to LAS generate somewhere between 5500 and 8500 RDMs plus the obligatory 2500 RDMs for Bags on Time. But, they always generate 2600 or 3900 MQMs RT depending on class flown.
Aircraft: Airbus A320
Flight Time: 3HR 1M
On Time % : 97
Miles Flown: 1,296
Most of my flights to LAS generate somewhere between 5500 and 8500 RDMs plus the obligatory 2500 RDMs for Bags on Time. But, they always generate 2600 or 3900 MQMs RT depending on class flown.
Sep 14, 2017, 6:30 pm
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I have been flying to LAS a lot the past couple of years. In fact, Monday I'll be flying back again for the 3rd straight week. Whenever I've looked at bookings, each leg has been 1300 miles. Looking at my recent flights, I was credited 1300 miles (or 1950 when booking F) including Monday's flight. Anyhoo, I was just looking at the redeye I SDC to tonight, it's showing 1296 miles. Looking at the legs for next week, they both say 1296. Is this a recent change?
I had no way of knowing what status you have. Also when people say awarded miles they generally mean RDM as they're award miles. Also it's a common question as to why DL has awarded different miles for the same flight. Maybe be a bit clearer next time you post? AFAIK, no one here is a mind reader. Based on what you posted the reply was perfectly correct.
Sep 14, 2017, 6:44 pm
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I had no way of knowing what status you have. Also when people say awarded miles they generally mean RDM as they're award miles. Also it's a common question as to why DL has awarded different miles for the same flight. Maybe be a bit clearer next time you post? AFAIK, no one here is a mind reader. Based on what you posted the reply was perfectly correct.
Sep 14, 2017, 6:57 pm
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Sep 14, 2017, 7:16 pm
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I had no way of knowing what status you have. Also when people say awarded miles they generally mean RDM as they're award miles. Also it's a common question as to why DL has awarded different miles for the same flight. Maybe be a bit clearer next time you post? AFAIK, no one here is a mind reader. Based on what you posted the reply was perfectly correct.
There's also no RDM multiplier that explains a 4-mile difference.
IMO it's perfectly ok to just say "Oops, my bad, I took the wrong interpretation" -- no one will think less of you, as compared to digging in and trying to backfit contorted justifications.
Sep 14, 2017, 7:27 pm
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It has been noted for many years that Delta apparently has two different sets of data that are used to calculate distances between cities. One is used in the schedule/flight info system, and a different one is used for mileage credit. This has resulted in single digit differences, but you should expect the flight to post 1,300/1,950 MQMs as it always has.
Sep 14, 2017, 8:06 pm
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OP said they've been flying the route a lot, and recently for the 3rd straight week, and always got 1300 miles. Unless you think they bought the exact same base fare every time, Occam's razor suggests we're talking about MQMs.
There's also no RDM multiplier that explains a 4-mile difference.
IMO it's perfectly ok to just say "Oops, my bad, I took the wrong interpretation" -- no one will think less of you, as compared to digging in and trying to backfit contorted justifications.
There's also no RDM multiplier that explains a 4-mile difference.
IMO it's perfectly ok to just say "Oops, my bad, I took the wrong interpretation" -- no one will think less of you, as compared to digging in and trying to backfit contorted justifications.
AFA the RDM multiplier, a general member RDM is x5. Based on fare rounding 4 miles is a perfectly explained difference, as I explained above.