Sep 21, 2017, 8:38 pm
Last edit by: DA201
DL Summer 2018 Transoceanic Routes
Revised 9/24/17
Fleet Info
*Note: Seat counts are now what is physically on the aircraft, if seats may be blocked off for crew rest it is noted
76L = 767-300ER with 36J+32W+143Y (1 J-seat blocked off for pilot rest, except for certain routes)
76T = 767-300ER with 36J+29W+143Y (longer routes with built-in pilot rest); Y has older smaller screens
76Z = 767-300ER with 26J+29W+171Y (1 J-seat blocked off for pilot rest, except for certain routes)
764 = 767-400ER with 40J+28W+178Y (1 J-seat blocked off for pilot rest, except for certain routes)
777 = 777-200ER/LR with 37J+36W+218Y
A333 = A330-300 with 34J+40W+219Y
A332 = A330-200 with 34J+40W+160Y
75S = 757-200 international with flat-bed J seats 16J+44W+108Y (3 Y-seats may be blocked off for FA rest; likewise to 1 J-seat for pilots)
75H = 757-200 domestic with AVOD throughout 20F+179Y (Y has older smaller screens)
75D = 757-200 domestic with AVOD throughout 20F+179Y (all seats have new larger Panasonic eX2 IFE)
744 = 747-400 with 48J+42W+286Y
JFK
TATL
DL401 JFK-LHR TBD (UPGAUGE from 76L)*DL confirmed NYC-LHR upgauged to 330 equipment but hasn't changed on schedule yet
DL403 JFK-LHR TBD (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL409 JFK-EDI 75S
DL044 JFK-DUB 764
DL406 JFK-SNN 75S (DOWNGAUGE from 76Z)
DL046 JFK-AMS 76Z
DL048 JFK-AMS 333
DL404 JFK-CDG 333 (was 777 summer 2017)
DL412 JFK-NCE 764
DL004 JFK-FRA 76L (DOWNGAUGE from 764)
DL042 JFK-BRU 76L
DL407 JFK-ZRH A332 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL418 JFK-MXP A333
DL474 JFK-VCE 764
DL444 JFK-FCO A333
DL415 JFK-MAD 764
DL478 JFK-BCN A333 (was 777 summer 2017)
DL470 JFK-AGP 75S (DOWNGAUGE from 76Z)
DL413 JFK-ATH A333
DL414 JFK-ATH 764 (DOWNGAUGE from 333)
DL411 JFK-PRG 764
DL218 JFK-CPH 764 (UPGAUGE from 75S)
DL446 JFK-KEF 75H (Saturday 2nd freq was cut)
DL466 JFK-GLA 75S
DL422 JFK-TXL 76Z
DL473 JFK-LIS 75S
DL417 JFK-PDL 75H (NEW service, 5x weekly no op from JFK Mon/Wed)
Latin America/Other
DL471 JFK-GRU 76L
DL420 JFK-ACC 76Z
DL415 JFK-LOS 332 (NEW service, 3x weekly)
DL416 JFK-DKR 75S (2 - 3x weekly)
DL468 JFK-TLV 333 (was 777 summer 2017)
ATL
TATL
DL030 ATL-LHR A333 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL032 ATL-LHR A332 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL176 ATL-DUB A333
DL070 ATL-AMS A333
DL072 ATL-AMS A333
DL074 ATL-AMS 77L (was A333 summer 2017)
DL080 ATL-BRU 76L
DL082 ATL-CDG A333
DL084 ATL-CDG A333
DL014 ATL-FRA 76L* (DOWNGAUGE from 764)
DL130 ATL-MUC 764
DL116 ATL-STR 76L
DL024 ATL-DUS 764
DL066 ATL-ZRH 76Z* (DOWNGAUGE from 764)
DL174 ATL-MXP 764
DL192 ATL-VCE 764
DL062 ATL-FCO 764
DL064 ATL-FCO 333
DL108 ATL-MAD 764 (DOWNGAUGE from 333)
DL114 ATL-BCN A333
DL122 ATL-LIS 76Z (NEW service)
Latin America
DL101 ATL-EZE 764
DL151 ATL-LIM 764
DL147 ATL-SCL 76L
DL105 ATL-GRU 333
DL061 ATL-GIG 333 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
Africa/TPAC/Other
DL054 ATL-LOS 332 (UPGAUGE from 76T, 4x weekly)
DL200 ATL-JNB 77L
DL089 ATL-ICN 359 (UPGAUGE from 77L)
DL295 ATL-NRT 77L
DL185 ATL-PVG 77L (NEW service, starts July 20 pending gov't approval)
DTW
TATL
DL017 DTW-LHR A332 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL018 DTW-LHR 76L (still less than daily, alternates w/ PDX-LHR)
DL096 DTW-CDG 76L (NEW additional frequency)
DL098 DTW-CDG A332 (DOWNGAUGE from 333)
DL236 DTW-FCO A333
DL086 DTW-FRA 76L (DOWNGAUGE from 332)
DL022 DTW-MUC 76L
DL132 DTW-AMS A333 (UPGAUGE from A332)
DL134 DTW-AMS A333 (UPGAUGE from A332)
DL136 DTW-AMS A332
DL138 DTW-AMS A333
Latin America
DL053 DTW-GRU A332 (less than daily)
TPAC
DL583 DTW-PVG 77L (DOWNGAUGE from 744)
DL159 DTW-ICN 359 (744 replacement)
DL275 DTW-NRT 359 (744 replacement)
DL189 DTW-PEK 359 (UPGAUGE from 332)
DL629 DTW-NGO A332 (less than daily)
MSP
TATL
DL010 MSP-LHR 76L
DL169 MSP-CDG 777
DL160 MSP-AMS A333
DL162 MSP-AMS A333
DL164 MSP-AMS A333
DL260 MSP-KEF 75H
TPAC
DL1469 MSP-HNL 76L (DOWNGAUGE from 333, unsure about seasonality)
DL121 MSP-HND 777
LAX
TPAC
DL041 LAX-SYD 77L
DL637 LAX-HND 777
DL185 LAX-PVG 77L
TATL
DL156 LAX-CDG 77L (NEW service 3x weekly)
DL078 LAX-AMS 77L (NEW service 4x weekly)
SEA
TATL
DL032 SEA-CDG 777 (was A333 summer 2017)
DL142 SEA-AMS A333
DL144 SEA-AMS 76Z (DOWNGAUGE from A332)
TPAC
DL039 SEA-HKG 777 (UPGAUGE from 332)
DL199 SEA-ICN 76T (CHANGE from 76L)
DL167 SEA-NRT 76T (CHANGE from 76L)
DL129 SEA-PEK 76T
DL589 SEA-PVG 76T
BOS
DL058 BOS-LHR 76L
DL118 BOS-CDG 76L
DL256 BOS-AMS 333
DL258 BOS-AMS 76Z (DOWNGAUGE from 333)
DL154 BOS-DUB 75S
SLC
DL050 SLC-LHR 76L
DL088 SLC-CDG 76Z
DL056 SLC-AMS 76Z (DOWNGAUGE from A332)
PDX
DL036 PDX-LHR 76L (alternates w/ DL18 DTW-LHR, 4x weekly?)
DL178 PDX-AMS A333
DL069 PDX-NRT 76Z (CHANGE from 76L)
MCO
DL197 MCO-GRU 76Z (CHANGE from 76L)
DL126 MCO-AMS 76Z (NEW service)
Other Flights:
TATL
DL020 EWR-CDG 76Z
DL500 IND-CDG 76Z (NEW service 5x weekly)
DL096 PIT-CDG 76Z (UPGAUGE from 75S)
DL228 CVG-CDG 76Z
DL230 RDU-CDG 76Z (was 76L summer 2017)
Pacific
DL275 NRT-MNL 76Z
DL181 HNL-NRT 76Z
DL183 HNL-NRT 76Z
DL167 NRT-SIN 76T (was 76L summer 2017)
Routes Dropped from Summer 2017
JFK-SVO
JFK-ARN
NRT-TPE
NRT-GUM
PHL-LHR
EWR-AMS (last flight March 23)
2nd frequency on Saturdays only JFK-KEF (75H still operates daily)
3rd frequency on JFK-LHR (taken over by VS)
Routes Suspended
PHL-CDG
Other things to note
DL Press Releases regarding new routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-trans-...e-destinations
FT Threads on new flights
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...er-2018-a.html
Revised 9/24/17
Fleet Info
*Note: Seat counts are now what is physically on the aircraft, if seats may be blocked off for crew rest it is noted
76L = 767-300ER with 36J+32W+143Y (1 J-seat blocked off for pilot rest, except for certain routes)
76T = 767-300ER with 36J+29W+143Y (longer routes with built-in pilot rest); Y has older smaller screens
76Z = 767-300ER with 26J+29W+171Y (1 J-seat blocked off for pilot rest, except for certain routes)
764 = 767-400ER with 40J+28W+178Y (1 J-seat blocked off for pilot rest, except for certain routes)
777 = 777-200ER/LR with 37J+36W+218Y
A333 = A330-300 with 34J+40W+219Y
A332 = A330-200 with 34J+40W+160Y
75S = 757-200 international with flat-bed J seats 16J+44W+108Y (3 Y-seats may be blocked off for FA rest; likewise to 1 J-seat for pilots)
75H = 757-200 domestic with AVOD throughout 20F+179Y (Y has older smaller screens)
75D = 757-200 domestic with AVOD throughout 20F+179Y (all seats have new larger Panasonic eX2 IFE)
744 = 747-400 with 48J+42W+286Y
JFK
TATL
DL401 JFK-LHR TBD (UPGAUGE from 76L)*DL confirmed NYC-LHR upgauged to 330 equipment but hasn't changed on schedule yet
DL403 JFK-LHR TBD (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL409 JFK-EDI 75S
DL044 JFK-DUB 764
DL406 JFK-SNN 75S (DOWNGAUGE from 76Z)
DL046 JFK-AMS 76Z
DL048 JFK-AMS 333
DL404 JFK-CDG 333 (was 777 summer 2017)
DL412 JFK-NCE 764
DL004 JFK-FRA 76L (DOWNGAUGE from 764)
DL042 JFK-BRU 76L
DL407 JFK-ZRH A332 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL418 JFK-MXP A333
DL474 JFK-VCE 764
DL444 JFK-FCO A333
DL415 JFK-MAD 764
DL478 JFK-BCN A333 (was 777 summer 2017)
DL470 JFK-AGP 75S (DOWNGAUGE from 76Z)
DL413 JFK-ATH A333
DL414 JFK-ATH 764 (DOWNGAUGE from 333)
DL411 JFK-PRG 764
DL218 JFK-CPH 764 (UPGAUGE from 75S)
DL446 JFK-KEF 75H (Saturday 2nd freq was cut)
DL466 JFK-GLA 75S
DL422 JFK-TXL 76Z
DL473 JFK-LIS 75S
DL417 JFK-PDL 75H (NEW service, 5x weekly no op from JFK Mon/Wed)
Latin America/Other
DL471 JFK-GRU 76L
DL420 JFK-ACC 76Z
DL415 JFK-LOS 332 (NEW service, 3x weekly)
DL416 JFK-DKR 75S (2 - 3x weekly)
DL468 JFK-TLV 333 (was 777 summer 2017)
ATL
TATL
DL030 ATL-LHR A333 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL032 ATL-LHR A332 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL176 ATL-DUB A333
DL070 ATL-AMS A333
DL072 ATL-AMS A333
DL074 ATL-AMS 77L (was A333 summer 2017)
DL080 ATL-BRU 76L
DL082 ATL-CDG A333
DL084 ATL-CDG A333
DL014 ATL-FRA 76L* (DOWNGAUGE from 764)
DL130 ATL-MUC 764
DL116 ATL-STR 76L
DL024 ATL-DUS 764
DL066 ATL-ZRH 76Z* (DOWNGAUGE from 764)
DL174 ATL-MXP 764
DL192 ATL-VCE 764
DL062 ATL-FCO 764
DL064 ATL-FCO 333
DL108 ATL-MAD 764 (DOWNGAUGE from 333)
DL114 ATL-BCN A333
DL122 ATL-LIS 76Z (NEW service)
Latin America
DL101 ATL-EZE 764
DL151 ATL-LIM 764
DL147 ATL-SCL 76L
DL105 ATL-GRU 333
DL061 ATL-GIG 333 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
Africa/TPAC/Other
DL054 ATL-LOS 332 (UPGAUGE from 76T, 4x weekly)
DL200 ATL-JNB 77L
DL089 ATL-ICN 359 (UPGAUGE from 77L)
DL295 ATL-NRT 77L
DL185 ATL-PVG 77L (NEW service, starts July 20 pending gov't approval)
DTW
TATL
DL017 DTW-LHR A332 (UPGAUGE from 76L)
DL018 DTW-LHR 76L (still less than daily, alternates w/ PDX-LHR)
DL096 DTW-CDG 76L (NEW additional frequency)
DL098 DTW-CDG A332 (DOWNGAUGE from 333)
DL236 DTW-FCO A333
DL086 DTW-FRA 76L (DOWNGAUGE from 332)
DL022 DTW-MUC 76L
DL132 DTW-AMS A333 (UPGAUGE from A332)
DL134 DTW-AMS A333 (UPGAUGE from A332)
DL136 DTW-AMS A332
DL138 DTW-AMS A333
Latin America
DL053 DTW-GRU A332 (less than daily)
TPAC
DL583 DTW-PVG 77L (DOWNGAUGE from 744)
DL159 DTW-ICN 359 (744 replacement)
DL275 DTW-NRT 359 (744 replacement)
DL189 DTW-PEK 359 (UPGAUGE from 332)
DL629 DTW-NGO A332 (less than daily)
MSP
TATL
DL010 MSP-LHR 76L
DL169 MSP-CDG 777
DL160 MSP-AMS A333
DL162 MSP-AMS A333
DL164 MSP-AMS A333
DL260 MSP-KEF 75H
TPAC
DL1469 MSP-HNL 76L (DOWNGAUGE from 333, unsure about seasonality)
DL121 MSP-HND 777
LAX
TPAC
DL041 LAX-SYD 77L
DL637 LAX-HND 777
DL185 LAX-PVG 77L
TATL
DL156 LAX-CDG 77L (NEW service 3x weekly)
DL078 LAX-AMS 77L (NEW service 4x weekly)
SEA
TATL
DL032 SEA-CDG 777 (was A333 summer 2017)
DL142 SEA-AMS A333
DL144 SEA-AMS 76Z (DOWNGAUGE from A332)
TPAC
DL039 SEA-HKG 777 (UPGAUGE from 332)
DL199 SEA-ICN 76T (CHANGE from 76L)
DL167 SEA-NRT 76T (CHANGE from 76L)
DL129 SEA-PEK 76T
DL589 SEA-PVG 76T
BOS
DL058 BOS-LHR 76L
DL118 BOS-CDG 76L
DL256 BOS-AMS 333
DL258 BOS-AMS 76Z (DOWNGAUGE from 333)
DL154 BOS-DUB 75S
SLC
DL050 SLC-LHR 76L
DL088 SLC-CDG 76Z
DL056 SLC-AMS 76Z (DOWNGAUGE from A332)
PDX
DL036 PDX-LHR 76L (alternates w/ DL18 DTW-LHR, 4x weekly?)
DL178 PDX-AMS A333
DL069 PDX-NRT 76Z (CHANGE from 76L)
MCO
DL197 MCO-GRU 76Z (CHANGE from 76L)
DL126 MCO-AMS 76Z (NEW service)
Other Flights:
TATL
DL020 EWR-CDG 76Z
DL500 IND-CDG 76Z (NEW service 5x weekly)
DL096 PIT-CDG 76Z (UPGAUGE from 75S)
DL228 CVG-CDG 76Z
DL230 RDU-CDG 76Z (was 76L summer 2017)
Pacific
DL275 NRT-MNL 76Z
DL181 HNL-NRT 76Z
DL183 HNL-NRT 76Z
DL167 NRT-SIN 76T (was 76L summer 2017)
Routes Dropped from Summer 2017
JFK-SVO
JFK-ARN
NRT-TPE
NRT-GUM
PHL-LHR
EWR-AMS (last flight March 23)
2nd frequency on Saturdays only JFK-KEF (75H still operates daily)
3rd frequency on JFK-LHR (taken over by VS)
Routes Suspended
PHL-CDG
Other things to note
DL Press Releases regarding new routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-trans-...e-destinations
FT Threads on new flights
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...er-2018-a.html
DL Summer 2018 Transoceanic Routes
Sep 21, 2017, 8:23 pm
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DL Summer 2018 Transoceanic Routes
DL has begun loading the Summer 2018 transoceanic schedule. This is a continuation from last year's thread. DL Summer 2017 Schedule
Edit: wiki cleaning complete. I did run through all flights and what is up there should be correct. JFK-LHR has been officially announced to be upgauged to A330 equipment although that hasn't been updated on the schedule and unknown whether it will be 332 and/or 333.
Edit: wiki cleaning complete. I did run through all flights and what is up there should be correct. JFK-LHR has been officially announced to be upgauged to A330 equipment although that hasn't been updated on the schedule and unknown whether it will be 332 and/or 333.
Last edited by N639DL; Sep 21, 2017 at 11:37 pm
Sep 24, 2017, 10:35 am
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Updates:
JFK-PDL still not loaded
JFK-LHR - still showing 76Ls on the schedule after DL announced 330 service.
DTW-CDG is 76L (new freq) and 332 (that was a downgauge), that might be funding a 333 on JFK-LHR.
BOS-AMS - 2nd frequency in the summer now showing 76Z, very surprised to see that downgauge and that it's a 76Z and not 764.
JFK-PDL still not loaded
JFK-LHR - still showing 76Ls on the schedule after DL announced 330 service.
DTW-CDG is 76L (new freq) and 332 (that was a downgauge), that might be funding a 333 on JFK-LHR.
BOS-AMS - 2nd frequency in the summer now showing 76Z, very surprised to see that downgauge and that it's a 76Z and not 764.
Sep 24, 2017, 11:21 am
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DL074 ATL-AMS switched from A330 to 77L
DL014 ATL-FRA switched from 764 to 763 (not sure which variant)
DL066 ATL-ZRH switched from 764 to 763 (not sure which variant)
DL017 DTW-LHR switched from 76L to A332
DL414 JFK-ATH switched from A333 to 764
DL218 JFK-CPH switched from 75S to 764
DL402 JFK-LHR cancelled and taken over by Virgin
DL407 JFK-ZRH switched from 76L to A332
DL032 SEA-CDG switched from A333 to 777
DL086 DTW-FRA switched from 764 to 763 (not sure which variant)
DL014 ATL-FRA switched from 764 to 763 (not sure which variant)
DL066 ATL-ZRH switched from 764 to 763 (not sure which variant)
DL017 DTW-LHR switched from 76L to A332
DL414 JFK-ATH switched from A333 to 764
DL218 JFK-CPH switched from 75S to 764
DL402 JFK-LHR cancelled and taken over by Virgin
DL407 JFK-ZRH switched from 76L to A332
DL032 SEA-CDG switched from A333 to 777
DL086 DTW-FRA switched from 764 to 763 (not sure which variant)
Last edited by DA201; Sep 24, 2017 at 11:29 am
Sep 24, 2017, 11:46 am
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The upgauge on ATL-GIG seems surprising in that I would expect the number of people visiting Rio from the USA to be declining rather than increasing and the Brazilian economy doesn't seem to be improving so as to support an increase in traffic in the opposite direction.
Sep 24, 2017, 1:41 pm
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The upgauge on ATL-GIG seems surprising in that I would expect the number of people visiting Rio from the USA to be declining rather than increasing and the Brazilian economy doesn't seem to be improving so as to support an increase in traffic in the opposite direction.
Also what about EWR-AMS? IS it gone as well? Can't believe DL dropped its third flight JFK-LHR. With redemptions going up on partner flights and Globals being hard to use on VS, it's a big loss as a JFK traveler.
Sep 24, 2017, 1:47 pm
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GIG is high season around Christmas/NYE/Carnival and generally when people in northern North America want sun and warmth. However, GIG is leisure and generally not a business destination.
Sep 24, 2017, 2:00 pm
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The last JFK-GIG seems to be 3/5 after only operating during the winter months. Maybe DL is already converting this flight from year round to seasonal before it even starts? Even in the winter it isn't daily. It seems to only be 5x per week most weeks. Maybe GOL isn't providing enough Brazilian passengers or able to connect DL passengers to secondary cities?
Sep 24, 2017, 2:07 pm
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Uggggh to the 777 on SEA-CDG. Losing 2-seat sections in Y is a huge bummer; isn’t there some better long range route to stick that thing on? 
Sep 24, 2017, 5:11 pm
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I'm eager to see if those rumored Focus City-AMS flights from the supposedly-informed 767 pilot on another forum actually happen later this Fall. Are there any noticeable free-ups of 757s for shorter routes?
Sep 24, 2017, 6:07 pm
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I think IND-AMS may have been that rumored AMS flight. How many cities have the right combination of European demand and DL flyers? STL has the demand, but BA STL-LHR would make more sense due to the large number of AA flyers. MEM has the DL flyers but I am not sure about the demand. Maybe BDL or CMH?
Sep 24, 2017, 6:16 pm
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PIT-CDG switched from a 757 to 763.
PHL-CDG is supposedly nixed from its 752.
PHL-LHR is definitely nixed from its 752.
JFK-CPH switched from a 757 to 763.
JFK-ARN is dropped from its 752.
JFK-PDL and JFK-SNN picked up a 752.
This leaves 3 possible extra 752's to cross the pond next summer?
Sep 24, 2017, 6:35 pm
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I didn't hear that EWR-AMS was going to be suspended, but the OP said it was. Maybe the official statement hasn't been released yet?
The last JFK-GIG seems to be 3/5 after only operating during the winter months. Maybe DL is already converting this flight from year round to seasonal before it even starts? Even in the winter it isn't daily. It seems to only be 5x per week most weeks. Maybe GOL isn't providing enough Brazilian passengers or able to connect DL passengers to secondary cities?
The last JFK-GIG seems to be 3/5 after only operating during the winter months. Maybe DL is already converting this flight from year round to seasonal before it even starts? Even in the winter it isn't daily. It seems to only be 5x per week most weeks. Maybe GOL isn't providing enough Brazilian passengers or able to connect DL passengers to secondary cities?