MEM Airport Improvements. Delta Returns To Concourse A.
Apr 21, 2017, 11:27 am
#17
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Don't forget CLT, which is now AA's second largest hub.
Apr 21, 2017, 2:15 pm
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I hope not, but it sure seems that way. I doubt they will leave the B security checkpoint open if there are no flights going out of B. Closing that off means there is no need for the walkway between B and C, which is where the Sky Club is located.
Apr 21, 2017, 2:20 pm
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I agree with you. It seems that people think that the big 3 should be able to have a large presence everywhere in the country. But to defend everything is to defend nothing.
DL is bad in TX
AA is bad in the Pacific Northwest
UA is bad in the SE.
WN is the best at covering the lower 48, but their horrible if you need to go to most second, and nearly all third tier cities or TPAC, TATL, or S. America or Canada or a non beach MX destination. And they can't get you to AK or HI.
No one carrier can have it all. IF they could, someone would have tried it by now!
DL is bad in TX
AA is bad in the Pacific Northwest
UA is bad in the SE.
WN is the best at covering the lower 48, but their horrible if you need to go to most second, and nearly all third tier cities or TPAC, TATL, or S. America or Canada or a non beach MX destination. And they can't get you to AK or HI.
No one carrier can have it all. IF they could, someone would have tried it by now!
Apr 21, 2017, 2:39 pm
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It depends on if they are going to remodle the ticket lobby or just the concourse. If they are just doing the concourse they could wall it off and keep B checkpoint as the only open checkpoint. The other two are closed, right?
Apr 21, 2017, 2:54 pm
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Pretty sure there was an Admiral's Club too.
Apr 21, 2017, 3:16 pm
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Apr 21, 2017, 3:33 pm
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I agree with you. It seems that people think that the big 3 should be able to have a large presence everywhere in the country. But to defend everything is to defend nothing.
DL is bad in TX
AA is bad in the Pacific Northwest
UA is bad in the SE.
WN is the best at covering the lower 48, but their horrible if you need to go to most second, and nearly all third tier cities or TPAC, TATL, or S. America or Canada or a non beach MX destination. And they can't get you to AK or HI.
No one carrier can have it all. IF they could, someone would have tried it by now!
DL is bad in TX
AA is bad in the Pacific Northwest
UA is bad in the SE.
WN is the best at covering the lower 48, but their horrible if you need to go to most second, and nearly all third tier cities or TPAC, TATL, or S. America or Canada or a non beach MX destination. And they can't get you to AK or HI.
No one carrier can have it all. IF they could, someone would have tried it by now!
Plus, they only fly to one city in Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Kansas, Arkansas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Alabama Georgia, Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, and Maine. The legacies do a much better job covering a lot of those states.
Apr 21, 2017, 3:37 pm
#24
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Ah, I never go that way. I fly DL everywhere but Texas and take southwest out of A for Texas.
Looks like in the new config DL gates will all be at the far end of B (where they mostly are now), so as far as possible from the current skyclub location.
Looks like in the new config DL gates will all be at the far end of B (where they mostly are now), so as far as possible from the current skyclub location.
Apr 21, 2017, 3:54 pm
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I wouldn't say that WN is the best in covering the lower 48 when they have no service to Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Mississippi, Delaware, and Vermont. They only fly to 41 states. All three legacies do better than that.
Plus, they only fly to one city in Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Kansas, Arkansas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Alabama Georgia, Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, and Maine. The legacies do a much better job covering a lot of those states.
Plus, they only fly to one city in Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Kansas, Arkansas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Alabama Georgia, Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, and Maine. The legacies do a much better job covering a lot of those states.
When we say that DL is bad in TX, it mostly means you have to connect, or you can only fly East in some cases. A little surprising that ELP doesn't have at least x1 daily SLC service...maybe when the new airport is built.
Same with AA in the PNW. Not great there mostly because hubs are out of the way to a lot of regional cities. But their AS partnership covers a lot of that
UA isn't great in the SE but that's mostly for travel to/from smaller cities or connecting inside the SE itself as IAH/IAD/ORD are too far out of the way.
But the broader point is that one one's perfect, and I really doubt the "unofficial" oligarchy line as someone else said. There isn't a single region in the country that one airline dominates. There are a few region where not every airline has a big presence. AK is the only area I'd say is truly dominated by one carrier...and it's not one of the big 4!
Apr 21, 2017, 3:56 pm
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I haven't been through the C checkpoint in years. And the last time I did it was only because there was a huge line at B -- so long that it made sense to try another option. Every single flight I take seems to leave out of B22 or 24. I hate that long walk past all the closed stores.
Apr 21, 2017, 4:02 pm
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I haven't been through the C checkpoint in years. And the last time I did it was only because there was a huge line at B -- so long that it made sense to try another option. Every single flight I take seems to leave out of B22 or 24. I hate that long walk past all the closed stores.
Apr 21, 2017, 4:19 pm
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I suppose you're right, I was grading WN on too much of a curve.
When we say that DL is bad in TX, it mostly means you have to connect, or you can only fly East in some cases. A little surprising that ELP doesn't have at least x1 daily SLC service...maybe when the new airport is built.
Same with AA in the PNW. Not great there mostly because hubs are out of the way to a lot of regional cities. But their AS partnership covers a lot of that
UA isn't great in the SE but that's mostly for travel to/from smaller cities or connecting inside the SE itself as IAH/IAD/ORD are too far out of the way.
But the broader point is that one one's perfect, and I really doubt the "unofficial" oligarchy line as someone else said. There isn't a single region in the country that one airline dominates. There are a few region where not every airline has a big presence. AK is the only area I'd say is truly dominated by one carrier...and it's not one of the big 4!
When we say that DL is bad in TX, it mostly means you have to connect, or you can only fly East in some cases. A little surprising that ELP doesn't have at least x1 daily SLC service...maybe when the new airport is built.
Same with AA in the PNW. Not great there mostly because hubs are out of the way to a lot of regional cities. But their AS partnership covers a lot of that
UA isn't great in the SE but that's mostly for travel to/from smaller cities or connecting inside the SE itself as IAH/IAD/ORD are too far out of the way.
But the broader point is that one one's perfect, and I really doubt the "unofficial" oligarchy line as someone else said. There isn't a single region in the country that one airline dominates. There are a few region where not every airline has a big presence. AK is the only area I'd say is truly dominated by one carrier...and it's not one of the big 4!
Apr 21, 2017, 4:43 pm
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I lived in Memphis up until graduating from high school in 2007 and always used Delta. Back then Delta used gates A25, A27, and A29. The ATL flights used A25 and A27 while CVG always used A29. It was really nice clearing security and having the gates be just a few feet away. I read somewhere that a long time ago Delta had a Crown Room at MEM but I never could figure out where it would have been located.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/s...wscolumn5.html
And even after that and other closings the same day, Delta had 44 Crown Room Clubs. Those were the days.
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Apr 21, 2017, 9:54 pm
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I would imagine the B security point will stay open since all of the ticketing desks are moving into B.