Did I get screwed out of upgrade?
Apr 13, 2017, 5:06 am
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For international flights, only if it's an oversold situation in Y. In the case of an oversell, it's called an operational upgrade (OpUp) - priority would be given to Diamonds over yourself and other PMs or lower elites.
Apr 13, 2017, 5:38 am
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"let's make a deal" is exactly how most businesses work 
I question the wisdom of an airline turning down $700 for an 8 hour flight when the incremental expense would be minimal.
And a lot of airlines like Air Canada offer upgrades at online checkin in the hopes of making a quick buck by trying to make sure the e J cabin does not leave with an empty seat - so this sort of thinking is not unusual at all with other airlines. 4 or 5 years ago, Air Canada sold upgrades for $999 from YVR to SYD at online check-in.
I question the wisdom of an airline turning down $700 for an 8 hour flight when the incremental expense would be minimal.
And a lot of airlines like Air Canada offer upgrades at online checkin in the hopes of making a quick buck by trying to make sure the e J cabin does not leave with an empty seat - so this sort of thinking is not unusual at all with other airlines. 4 or 5 years ago, Air Canada sold upgrades for $999 from YVR to SYD at online check-in.
Apr 13, 2017, 5:43 am
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"let's make a deal" is exactly how most businesses work
I question the wisdom of an airline turning down $700 for an 8 hour flight when the incremental expense would be minimal.
And a lot of airlines like Air Canada offer upgrades at online checkin in the hopes of making a quick buck by trying to make sure the e J cabin does not leave with an empty seat - so this sort of thinking is not unusual at all with other airlines. 4 or 5 years ago, Air Canada sold upgrades for $999 from YVR to SYD at online check-in.
I question the wisdom of an airline turning down $700 for an 8 hour flight when the incremental expense would be minimal.
And a lot of airlines like Air Canada offer upgrades at online checkin in the hopes of making a quick buck by trying to make sure the e J cabin does not leave with an empty seat - so this sort of thinking is not unusual at all with other airlines. 4 or 5 years ago, Air Canada sold upgrades for $999 from YVR to SYD at online check-in.
Finally with US business they normally don't play "let's make a deal" with end consumers. Suppliers, yes, consumers generally no.
Apr 13, 2017, 6:10 am
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Apr 13, 2017, 6:16 am
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Apr 13, 2017, 9:05 am
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Flight 68 - one hour ago per Delta Lounge attendaant there were ten delta one seats left. App showing THIRTEEN people were upgraded to delta one - i asked the gate agent who seemed like decent guy and he assured me no one got upgraded and that the app is wrong. Can anyone look into this for my peace of mind. I am PM and offered lounge attendant US$700 for upgrade. There were twenty on standby and now standby is 0
Apr 13, 2017, 10:19 am
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So it literally does involve someone or something being struck by lightning but does exist in rare cases.
Apr 13, 2017, 10:28 am
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Aww man, I got a zonk!
IIRC there is only one or two DL agents at the NRT lounge, those who check you in don't have DL system/rebooking access.
The additional confusion is that a DL handled AF flight will offer DOD upgrades at the gate to either PE or J per the AF DOD upgrade process. The DL flight, perhaps at the next gate, wont.
I have seen them offer a chance to buy international upgrades at the gate if you were in certain fare classes. However we're talking the day after there was a four hour ground stop in ATL due to thunderstorms and they were trying to unwind that particular large scale operational mess.
So it literally does involve someone or something being struck by lightning but does exist in rare cases.
So it literally does involve someone or something being struck by lightning but does exist in rare cases.
Apr 13, 2017, 11:10 am
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OP, as we said, non-revs were cleared into J. No lower Medallions mysteriously leapfrogged you for op-ups that didn't exist.
Apr 13, 2017, 11:21 am
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Apr 13, 2017, 12:43 pm
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