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Dec 2, 2016, 5:41 pm

#61

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Originally Posted by bennos

In other words, I might be willing to spend more than the $1/rt for a typical EU flight to get more space and (somewhat) better service, but not the $5 - $7k required for J.

I never pay more than $3K to fly J to Europe.

Dec 2, 2016, 11:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Dieuwer

I never pay more than $3K to fly J to Europe.

If you want to stick with DL, it is not always possible to find J fares at $3k or under, especially when you purchase tickets not very far in advance.

Dec 3, 2016, 1:18 am

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Originally Posted by jdrtravel

I think it is basically domestic first class on international flights, not C+. The only significant difference will be a leg rest and nicer amenities. I would expect the food quality to be very similar to domestic first.

I pointed out seat wise close to Domestic F. The meal for most PE is Y entree plus an upgraded dessert or starter.

Dec 3, 2016, 3:31 am

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Originally Posted by pvn

there's no guarantee how long that policy will be in effect

Sure nothing in life is certain, but as of now that is the published policy, not a rumor on the internet.

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Originally Posted by Dieuwer

I never pay more than $3K to fly J to Europe.

Me neither... because when my itinerary doesn't work for a $3K J fare I fly in W.

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Originally Posted by flyerCO

The meal for most PE is Y entree plus an upgraded dessert or starter.

While I agree in most cases W is basically the Y meal service, both the AA and DL announcements specifically highlighting enhanced menus lead me to believe their W meal service will more closely reflect VS W, which is a completely different service from Y.

Dec 3, 2016, 8:45 am

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Originally Posted by flyerCO

I pointed out seat wise close to Domestic F. The meal for most PE is Y entree plus an upgraded dessert or starter.

As bennos points out, this is not what they have advertised.

Dec 3, 2016, 9:58 am

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Originally Posted by flyerCO

I pointed out seat wise close to Domestic F. The meal for most PE is Y entree plus an upgraded dessert or starter.

I agree for most PE based on photos - but Virgin Atlantic (VS) PE which I've actually flown on has a separate service. PDB, printed menus, plates that aren't plastic, metal cutlery, glassware, linens. The only part I found cheap was they still had minis for wine and used plastic cups for water. All drinks were complimentary.

I expect Delta to start out close to this level of service. If they don't make enough money on the cabin after a while I would expect it to drop closer to what we see in Air France, etc.

Dec 3, 2016, 11:06 am

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Originally Posted by bennos

BA serves J meals (might just be J mains, though) in W. Now, BA's J meals are generally terrible, but it is British Airways after all, so you take what you can get.